Showing posts with label Economists. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Economists. Show all posts

Thursday, 19 May 2016

Andy Haldane Maybe the First Honest Bank of England Employee...

...for admitting that he has absolutely no clue as to what he is doing.

FWIW pensions are a dead simple concept. They are just deferred income.  What make them complicated is all the Kafkaesque rules written around them by the likes of Haldane and his cronies.

Dear God. What next! What next?

Update.

To save putting this in the comments thread.

The principle around the pensions tax relief is that you are deferring your pay.  You get tax relief on contributions and the fund grows free of CGT and CT/IT (Yes, MW I know I know  - but this is the principle).  But when you draw your benefits as an annuity you get taxed on the whole payment, not just the interest component as in a purchase life annuity.  This applies however you take the 'pension'.

The laws of compound interest and the expected return on a mixed fund of shares, bonds and property (the assets in a typical pension fund) mean that if you save between 12% and 15% per year of your gross income, you will, by about age 65 have accumulated a fund large enough to buy you a 'pension' which will be about 50% to 67% of your final wage.  This is just one of those 'laws' that works.

The problem is all the bloody rules around this simple concept.  They - the government and their bureaucrats - have, to put it in technical financial services language, so forgive me, fucked it all up. End of.

I have run a business in this area for nigh on 30 years now and I have seen these ratios work and I have witnessed the utter, utter failure of the likes of Haldane and his cronies to do anything sensible ever. Ever.

And just to make another key point we do our level best to keep charges low.  But when upwards of 70% of my revenue goes back out of the door in a combination of taxes and regulatory costs, we are not the cost problem.

Friday, 13 August 2010

Killer arguments against LVT, not (59)

Part 2/3 of responding to Adam Collyer's supposedly killer arguments against, the nub of which appears to be this:

The whole of your case (1) seems to rest on an assumption that people are willing to pay an absolutely fixed amount for their land (2). So if you levy the tax, then rents go down by the same amount (3). That is clearly untrue (4). If land (plus taxes on it) becomes more expensive, people may potentially be willing to devote more of their income to paying for it.(5)

So you could easily end up with the landlords going on merrily levying rent (6), and the people/tenants/mortgage payers simply paying the new tax on top and grumbling about it. (They wouldn’t grumble about the lower taxes elsewhere, obviously!)


1) There are nigh infinite arguments for restricting the revenue raising powers of the government (as proxy for society as a whole) to sources of income or wealth that arise solely because of privileges granted or protected by the government (as agent for society as a whole; and one man's privilege is another man's restriction). To a large extent, the arguments in favour of LVT are the equal and opposite of arguments against taxes on the free exchange of goods and services and the profits arising therefrom.

2) In the absence of property price bubbles, which are A Bad Thing in and of themselves and something which LVT would dampen or prevent, people are only prepared to pay a certain amount for their land. It is beyond dispute that the price of fixed income investments (such as government bonds) is in direct inverse proportion to their interest rate (higher interest rate = lower prices and vice versa). Land is a kind of fixed return 'investment' and as any fule kno, higher interest rates reduce the selling prices of land and buildings and vice versa, for the simple reason that the people have fixed budgets, and the more they have to pay in interest, the less they will pay for the purchase price.

3) Correct. All things being equal, and assuming no reductions in other taxes*, the total rents that somebody will pay are inclusive of the tax. If a tenant has to pay the Council Tax himself, the net rent that a landlord can charge in a high Council Tax area will be lower than in a low Council Tax area. I've covered this before a dozen times, see for example Part 48 of this series..

4) What I say is clearly true or I wouldn't say it. I observed this on many occasions in the eighteen years between starting a career in tax (and its even uglier sister, subsidies), accounting and finance and stumbling across LVT.

5) "may" and "potentially" are hardly arguments.

6) The whole 'landlord adding the tax to the rent' is a red herring, as less than ten per cent of UK households rent privately (without recourse to Housing Benefit) and seventy per cent of households are owner-occupiers, who cannot evade the tax or 'pass it on' in any sense (they can avoid it quite easily by trading down in absolute terms or allowing more housing to be built and hence trading down in relative terms).

Most people who can afford to rent privately also have the choice of buying (if it were significantly cheaper renting, nobody would ever buy), so seeing as LVT would depress capital purchase prices, even if LVT-inclusive rents went up, this would lead to a higher level of home ownership, which is usually seen as A Good Thing.

* To disentangle this, there are four effects which inter-act:

a) All things being equal, higher taxes on land values depress selling prices or rents, so that tax-inclusive rents or the total tax-plus-mortgage outlays of a new purchaser stay the same. And lower taxes increase selling prices and rents, in the same way that lower interest rates increases selling prices or increase profits for landlords with mortgages.

b) Lower income taxes (especially if accompanied by reductions in wasteful government spending) tend to increase rents and selling prices, which is why property prices and rents in a tax haven like Monaco are significantly higher than in surrounding French towns, but do not imagine that yer average waiter or shop assistant working in Monaco benefits from the lower taxes - either they live there and pay the tax saving back as rent; or they live in France and either pay more income tax in France or the wages they can earn in Monaco are no higher than in France in the first place.

c) When I'm in charge, once I've replaced existing property and wealth related taxes (Business Rates, Council Tax, Inheritance Tax etc) with LVT, any further increases in LVT will go in tandem with cuts in VAT, NICs, income tax, corporation tax. So to some extent, total occupation costs would increase, i.e. landlords would be no worse off (because they'd collect rent after one layer of tax, and not have to pay income tax on rents paid out of the tenant's post-tax income); homeowners and tenants would be no worse off on a static basis (because they pay more of one and less of the other) but the economy as a whole would benefit enormously.

d) Of course, the total that could possibly be collected in LVT is rather less than the amounts currently collected in tax (for a given GDP level). So that's good, but GDP would be growing much faster as well, once freed us from the burden of income tax and all the quangocracy and EU crap, so after five or ten years, the total tax collected in £-s-d might well be the same, but it sure as heck would be a much smaller share of GDP. What's not to like?

To sum up these four effects, with a simple non-scientific example, let's assume under current rules a household has headline income of £30,000 p.a., pays or bears taxes of £10,000 and pays mortgage or rent of £9,000 and Council Tax of £1,000. The bank or landlord collects the £9,000 and pays income or corporation tax on it of another £2,000. If we replaced all these taxes with Land Value Tax, it would level out at (say) £12,000; the household's income goes up (having shaken off dead weight cost of VAT, income tax etc) to £36,000 and pays mortgage or rent (inclusive of LVT) of £20,000. The bank or the landlord nets £8,000, which is of course tax free.

In other words, landlords would add the LVT to the rent, but only to the extent that income tax, VAT are cut, and nobody ends up particularly worse off.

Thursday, 21 January 2010

Planning regulations vs land values

As a general musing, there is a school of (libertarian) thought that says that planning restrictions push up land values, because they restrict the supply of land.

This is clearly true at the very edge of a town - the NIMBYs vehemently oppose anything that might encroach upon The Hallowed Greenbelt, because they will lose the view, so farm land on one side of the invisible line is worth £5,000 - £10,000 an acre, but residential land on the other is worth £1,000,000 per acre*, but in the grander scheme of things, it is not true.

Imagine, if you will, two railway stations on a railway line, or different junctions on a motorway, which goes from the centre of town (where everybody wants to work, shop, relax etc) into the distant countryside, a few miles apart (but only a few minutes apart in rail or car terms, and hence equidistant from the town centre for these purposes).

The local council at Station or Junction A caves in to the NIMBYs, who happen to own a cluster of houses near the station or junction, and all new construction, property extensions, alterations to fabric of anything is banned.

However, the local council round Station or Junction B goes on the other tack (maybe all the councillors are in the construction industry, but don't yet own any of the land, let's say) and scraps all planning regulations, apart from zoning the areas on the map crudely into the town centre, where you can do what you want within reason; a residential area on one side of the town centre (extending outwards as far as people want to build) and a commercial/industrial bit between the town centre and the station or junction (but otherwise extending outwards as far as people want to build).

We then sit back and wait for a couple of decades to see how things develop.

Now answer me this: in which area will land values (i.e. total property values minus construction costs) be higher? In Hamlet A or in thriving commuter-belt town B?**

* This sounds like a lot, but imagine ten houses worth £200,000 each on one acre. The houses each cost £100,000 to build (including builder's profit margin, connection to utilities etc), so that tenth of an acre must be worth £100,000; £100,000 x 10 = £1,000,000.

** Yes of course the land values at the very outer edge of Town B will never be much more than their value as farmland, because if the value of houses or commercial premises on the very edge ever exceeds their construction costs by any significant margin, the farmer or landowner will simply build some more and the town will expand a bit; there will be a natural outer limit to how far Town B can expand set by 'the markets'. I mean the overall total land values in the whole conurbation.

Thursday, 30 October 2008

With economists like this ...

... no wonder the banks are in a mess.

Canvassed by the BBC about his Reaction to falling house prices, James Knightly, Economist at ING had this to say:

This wealth destruction, coupled with growing concerns about negative equity, is likely to keep consumer confidence very weak. This, combined with plunging business surveys and the third-quarter negative GDP rate, should ensure another Bank of England interest rate cut on Thursday of at least 50 basis points, with further large cuts likely in the next few months.

Dude, WTF?

Changes in house prices are neither wealth destruction nor wealth creation. Allowing houses to deteriorate is probably wealth destruction; burning one down almost certainly is; but allowing prices to return to their long run average (about 60% of today's value) certainly is not.

And he works for a bank, so as far as rate cuts go, he would say that, wouldn't he?

Thursday, 25 October 2007

Open letter to Alan Greenspan

To the point and funny.

Via the House Price Crash newsblog, where they are thoroughly enjoying today's haul of HPC-porn.