Thursday, 14 March 2013

Short List

The three items on the previous Short List ("Musicians who had a cameo rôle as a shop keeper in a major Hollywood film") are:

Ray Charles in The Blues Brothers (Pavlov's Cat and MacHeath)
Ian Dury in Judge Dredd (Pavlov's Cat, again)
Bo Diddley in Trading Places (The Stigler)

Near misses (not cameo rôles):
Mos Def in Be Kind Rewind (DBC Reed)
Phil Collins (florist-cum-Great Train Robber) in Buster (The Stigler, again)

Doesn't count:
Henry Rollins as a doctor in Johnny Mnemonic (Richard Allan)

UPDATE: Make up your own minds whether this one counts:
Ricky Gervais (who was a musician before becoming a comedian/actor) in Stardust

UPDATE2: Tom Seddon (on the original post) asks: "Wouldn't Aretha Franklin count as well? She was in Blues Brothers as owner of the food place where the guitarist and saxophonist worked, and then again in Blues Brothers 2000 as owner of a car showroom." Pavlov's Cat/Macheath, any answers?
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Next short list, and I can think of two (or three): "Television programmes, the title of which is based on/inspired by something/somebody in the book Nineteen Eighty-Four".

17 comments:

Shiney said...

Point of Order... (surely)

You didn't include my submission of Rick Gervais as a near miss. (I still think it was valid 'cos he was a musician BEFORE being a comic)

Yeah, yeah... your gaff, your rules... but I feel hard done by ;-D

Macheath said...

BB and 10, naturally, but number 3 eludes me.

Given the tendency of teenagers to copy whatever they see on TV, the general consensus in the staffroom is that we'd like to see BBC3 making 'the Junior Anti-Sex League', a soap opera about trendy teenagers who don't treat every school trip or dance as an opportunity for sneaking off into the bushes for a quick snog.

Macheath said...

Oops, that should be 101, of course; otherwise you're talking Bo Derek and a whole different game.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Sh, I've thrown it open to debate.

McH, those are the two obvious ones. The other one is something which the Proles indulge in/are distracted by and which started for real in 1994 and has been broadcast once (and now twice a week) ever since.

Bob E said...

Wasn't "Watch with Mother" reverse inspired by 1984 ?

Lola said...

"1999". An Edward Woodward vehicle about a future dystopian bureaucratic state. (Depressingly, it's happened).

Lola said...

ooops, I meant "1990".

Lola said...

Link here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075469/

Mark Wadsworth said...

Bob E, it would have been "Listen with mother" and the answer is, I don't know.

L, that wasn't in the book.

The Stigler said...

Ah, the National Lottery. Orwell missed a trick with that - if he'd thought it through he'd have mentioned how it was sold to people as giving back to good causes for the proles, when most of its projects were designed to support the Inner and Outer party.

Lola said...

"...inspired by something in the book..." '1990' was certainly 'inspired' by the bureaucratic state described by Orwell. The parallels are there.

Mark Wadsworth said...

TS, got it in one!

L, there are plenty of books and films loosely based on "1984" (such as Brazil, the film). Anyway, I'll add the caveat "TV programmes which are currently or were fairly recently on the telly, not stuff from the 1970s"

Bob E said...

MW - Neither do I, t'were just idle musing of the "could it have?" variety ...

"Watch with Mother" started in 1952, "Listen with" indeed getting in first and predating it by 2 years.

And both were the brainchild of the same person as I discovered in the cause of checking whether my entirely self generated "reverse inspired" suggestion might have any possible merit at all because, I was reasoning to myself, of WWM being "almost the opposite of 'oppressive BB is always Watching You', and instead 'Here's a nice cosy reason for Mum and wee sprogs getting together and turning on the TV and having a special splendid fun time" (just before the sprogs afternoon nap and Mum's first G and T of the day, considering who was most likely to be TV set owning when 1952 kicked off) and the possibility (soon dashed) that Watch and Listen might have both started as long ago as 1949 ...

but on reading that

"The choice of Watch With Mother for the title of the series was intended "to deflect fears that television might become a nursemaid to children and encourage 'bad mothering'"

I was prompted to go ahead and post that "no known substance to support it suggestion" ...

Mark Wadsworth said...

BE, as all parents know, TV is the "third parent", there when you need it and always good to take up the reins for x minutes, where x is a function of the child's age.

Pavlov's Cat said...

Your gaff Mark , I didn't go with Aretha from the Blues Brothers , is a Diner a shop? I didn't think so.

Have never seen Blues Brothers 2000 have too much regard for John Belushi

Can I add whilst Rickey Gervais did have a (very short)musical career , his cameo was as Ricky Gervais famous face comedian. So i'd disallow it

Mark Wadsworth said...

PC, maybe a diner isn't strictly a shop, but if it was a cameo role, that's close enough for an honourable mention.

Ta re Gervais, I'm inclined to agree.

Lola said...

MW Fair enough. I like 'Brazil' too.