It is strange that this story here should come up. I have heard about the case and the role of the security services in the Tomlinson union scandal. I was discussing with a friend a couple of days ago, how I assumed that all the extreme right parties: National Front, BNP etc, were actually staffed by MI5 and MI6 agents at the groups' highest level.
I guess if you walked into the room with Nick Griffin and co in the late 70s and 80s, and you did not work for the secret services, then as per Warren Buffet quote: you knew you were the patsy!
I think, in contrast, left wing groups and animal rights groups, etc, were crippled by 'division sowing', Monty Python, 'splitter teams' at the mid and low levels.
As for the journalists here, 50% of them, on a cash in hand basis (another 25% don't know where the money comes from). At the Guardian, BBC and ITV proper salaries on the MI5/6 books paid out by the embassies around the world. Nevertheless, what really surprised me was not Richard not-so-white-now, but the bit about Jill Dando in the comments under the article. I really never knew!
* As soon as I typed 'MI5' this programme started to slow down a great deal, and I have had several problems with the function keys. I am going to stop now, as there appears to be someone knocking at the d....
Wednesday, 1 March 2017
A Right Royal Conspiracy
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Monday, 11 January 2016
UKIP must be laughing themselves silly over this...
From The Electoral Commission:
The Electoral Commission has today (8 January) removed the British National Party (BNP) from its register of political parties in Great Britain for failing to confirm their registration details with the Commission - a legal requirement that must be submitted annually...
The BNP’s statement of accounts were due on 7 July 2015. Their annual confirmation of registered details was therefore due on or before 7 January 2016. The Electoral Commission did not receive the notification by this date and is required by law to remove the BNP from its register of political parties in Great Britain.
Now that the party has been removed from the register, BNP candidates cannot, at present, use the party’s name, descriptions or emblems on the ballot paper at elections. The party can, however, submit an application to re-register at any time and their name, descriptions and emblems are protected under PPERA for two years to prevent other parties using them. Any application will be considered by the Commission in line with its usual processes for assessing new applications to register political parties.
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Thursday, 31 January 2013
Two cheers for Nick Griffin
From The Huffington Post:
The BNP leader also alleged the "United States" had offered him money "to concentrate only on Islam, they wanted us to drop our criticism of the banking system. I refused, in 2007, and all hell broke loose."
This seems perfectly plausible to me, the financial services sector is far and away the largest donor to political parties in the UK (Tories and UKIP being the main beneficiaries).
Labour still gets a lot of money from trade unions (it's mainly ex-Prime Ministers who get lots of money from banks), which is fair enough, seeing as originally The Labour Party was the political wing of the trade union movement. Where this has gone horribly wrong is the fact that trade unions nowadays are mainly for public sector workers.
Nick goes a bit off-piste here though:
Griffin used his speech to plea for other far-right splinter groups to rejoin the BNP as well as espousing his theories about the English Defence League, calling the group "a serious, systematic, hugely-funded effort by the Zionist, neo-con clique, to dominate nationalism, to use as a tool to encourage the white working class to go and fight their wars, and so when the banking collapse comes, people will be looking for blame in the wrong direction."
It's quite true that the "neo-con clique" do spend a lot of money on this sort of thing, but I'd be surprised if the EDL receives a penny of it.
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Saturday, 27 October 2012
Being entirely fair, he did publish his own address, even though that was probably stupidity rather than an act of defiance
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Tuesday, 26 April 2011
AV: Yes, No, Undecided
The results of the last opinion poll I can find, which I shall take at face value, are as follows:
Yes - 32%
No - 41%
Undecided - 22%
OK, the 'Yes' voters are most likely to turn out and vote, the 'No' voters less so and the 'Undecideds' are unlikely to vote, so that's not looking good, but if you are 'undecided' at the moment, why not cover your bets by voting 'Yes'?
IF at the next General Election you can't quite make up your mind which candidate you like best [dislike least] THEN at least you have the option of casting a 'conscience vote', a 'comedy vote' and a 'compromise vote;
ELSE IF you support one candidate, and one only THEN you still have the option of casting your first and only vote for that candidate, safe in the knowledge that this is exactly the same as casting your first, second, third etc. votes for that candidate.
ELSE IF you heartily disagree with all the candidates on offer and want to register a protest vote THEN you can look up the results of the previous election and cast your votes in reverse order of how likely they are to win, leaving the most likely candidate blank.
ENDIF.
Footnote: Even if it were the case that under AV, the BNP would grab a couple of seats in Parliament, would that be the end of the world? However little you like the BNP's policies, they are after all a political party which claims* that it wants to get into power first and then start killing people; they are not the political wing of a distinctly anti-British guerilla movement which actually has killed hundreds of people over the decades**, and the UK Parliament has had a handful of Sinn Fein MPs for years without anything terrible happening.
* I don't think their leadership, i.e. Nick Griffin, seriously imagines they ever will, it's just him and a few other cynical racists making a living off the backs of lots of little people.
** I actually agree with the Irish republican cause, but the means they have used (and the way that the USA sucks up to them) turn my stomach, and I'm not impressed with the way things are going in Northern Ireland.
Monday, 18 April 2011
Fun Online Polls: Illegal immigrants and AV
On a very high turnout, the result in last week's Fun Online Poll was as follows:
Which is the least insane policy on 'illegal immigrants' in the UK?
Round them all up and deport them - 67%
Turn a blind eye, but make sure as few new ones come in as possible - 20%
Offer them all an amnesty and allow them to stay here - 14%
Hmm.
I think we can rule out the last option, but the first (and most popular) one strikes me as a bit hare brained. How do we define 'illegal immigrant'? How do we identify them? Does anybody have any idea how many there are? If we left the EU (a key part of my manifesto), would a lot of foreign workers suddenly change status from 'legal' to 'illegal'?
Sure, if foreigners commit a serious crime (including Islamism) and are arrested, by all means boot them out without any back chat (even if they are 'legal'), but what about those who have never claimed benefits, worked hard and supported themselves somehow, never committed a crime, maybe even got married and had children who are at school? How would you identify them and if so would it be politically desirable or even do-able to kick them all out?
So my preferred option, by default, would be the second one, but I'm clearly outvoted on this.
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The No2AV continue to peddle their lies*, and would appear to be gaining the upper hand.
It strikes me that the Tories are going out of their way to convince people that the BNP would somehow sneak in by the back door if we had AV; that AV would unduly favour the Lib Dems, and that the Electoral Reform Society are entirely unprincipled.
The ERS thing is just a smear. And if you think about it, there's no reason to assume that AV will give the Lib Dems an unfair advantage, it might merely cancel out the unfair disadvantage which FPTP gives them and the idea that the BNP would gain influence is laughable.
What's interesting is what the Tories aren't saying, and which is blindly obvious if you think about it, which is that it would be incredibly embarrassing for them when a large chunk (ten, twenty per cent? More?) of those they consider natural Tory voters vote "UKIP 1, Tory 2" under an AV election. It's unlikely that this would be enough to change the final result in many constituencies in the next General Election or two, but all the same, it would show how narrow their true support is.
The chances are, the Tories would then be forced to become more EU-sceptic, maybe even hold and in-out referendum, but that is exactly what they don't want to do!
So that's this week's Fun Online Poll, which party are the Tories really scared of?
Vote here or use the widget in the sidebar.
* For example, they keep saying that "Only three other countries use AV", for sure, that's because most countries have moved on a bit and use some other more proportional voting system, be that STV, AV-plus, full PR, multi-member constituencies, whatever.
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Wednesday, 30 March 2011
"First past the post plays into the hands of extremists like BNP." claims Baroness Warsi
From The Evening Standard:
Unelected Baroness Warsi is to issue a direct plea to London's ethnic communities to oppose Britain's* First-Past-The-Post voting system by giving a speech near the site of brief skirmish which took place seventy-five years ago.
The Tory Party co-chairman will give an address tomorrow at Toynbee Hall in Whitechapel, close to Cable Street which saw a brief skirmish between pro and anti-fascist demonstrators on a Sunday afternoon in 1936. A few East Londoners took to the streets to oppose a march by a few of Oswald Mosley's blackshirts, setting up barricades and clashing with police trying to maintain order.
Lady Warsi will argue that First-Past-The-Post puts pressure on the two mainstream parties to adopt the policies of extremist parties like the BNP in order to secure the tactical votes of natural BNP supporters who are realistic enough to accept that the BNP are unlikely to ever win a seat. She will point out that the first-past-the-post system has served generations of immigrants badly.
Aides said the issue was of personal importance to Lady Warsi, a patron of "No to FPTP" who failed to win the seat of Dewsbury in the 2005 general election - the only election she ever fought before being elevated to the House of Lords as a token coloured woman - where the BNP secured 5,066 votes - more than the difference between the winning candidate and her own turnout.
"Under AV, it is quite possible that many of these BNP voters would have reluctantly given the Tory candidate, i.e. me, their second vote and I would have been duly elected," the Tory appointee will sigh wistfully, "You wouldn't believe how thick they are."
* There's no such place as "Britain", there's an island called "Great Britain", and the political unit they are referring to is more correctly referred to as "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
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Tuesday, 9 November 2010
Er... which assets exactly?
From The Metro, 9 November 2010:
The Equality and Human Rights Commission asked Lord Justice Moore-Bick and Mr Justice Ramsey to find the trio guilty of contempt for failing to comply with a court judgment ordering the removal of potentially racist clauses from the BNP’s constitution... The watchdog asked the judges, sitting at London’s High Court, to fine the BNP leadership or seize party assets.
From The Daily Mirror, 3 November 2010:
BNP leader Nick Griffin faces being axed as a Euro MP as he fights to avoid bankruptcy over his party's soaring cash crisis. He is among top officials thought to be personally liable for the racist group's £700,000 debts - which it admits it cannot pay.
I have no idea whether that figure of £700,000 for the deficit (i.e. negative assets) is accurate, but the latest BNP accounts available from the Electoral Commission are those for 2008, which show a deficit of about £200,000. Those accounts are 'under enquiry', and heck knows what the BNP spent on the EU Parliament elections in 2009 or the General Election in 2010. Half a million quid would seem a fair guess.
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Thursday, 4 November 2010
Oh, please let this be true...
From yesterday's Daily Mirror:
BNP leader Nick Griffin could lose Euro seat as party faces bankruptcy... He is among top officials thought to be personally liable for the racist group's £700,000 debts - which it admits it cannot pay.
The BNP's money woes were laid bare by ex-chief fundraiser James Dowson in a letter seen by the Mirror. Mr Dowson told North-East printers who produced its newsletter that the finances were like "a shipwreck.. Cash is in very short supply... [it is] impossible for the BNP and persons associated with it to pay outstanding bills in anything like a normal timescale, if indeed at all." The "very grave" crisis meant it could only pay 20% of what it owed, he added.
Its money problems have been made worse by having to settle a legal row after illegally using Marmite in an ad and the cost of fighting the Equality and Human Rights Commission over its whites-only admission rules. Meanwhile, electoral chiefs are still probing its 2008 accounts as they contain gaps that breach the law...
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Thursday, 14 October 2010
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
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Friday, 23 July 2010
Nick Griffin: Brave or foolhardy?
There was a photo of Nick Griffin in today's Metro proudly holding his invitation to yesterday's 'garden party' - which can't have been much fun as it was raining yesterday afternoon in London.
What is surprising is that he is holding it so that his home address - Y'Gribin, Llanerfyl, Y Trallwng, Welshpool, SY21 0JQ - is clearly legible.
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Wednesday, 16 June 2010
Yup. That'll teach them.
From The Evening Standard's letters page:
... The Queen should withdraw Griffin's invite immediately and send a powerful message that all people in this country are equal.
Weyman Bennett, Joint secretary, Unite Against Fascism.
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Friday, 4 June 2010
I don't wish to be seen as unpatriotic, but...
Has anybody else noticed that organisations whose name starts with the word 'British' are all 'a bit shit'?
British Aerospace (cue smartarse who claims that they are called 'BAE' nowadays)
British Airways
British Broadcasting Corporation
British Council
British Energy
British Gas
British Institute of Human Rights
British National Party
British Petroleum
British Telecom
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Tuesday, 6 April 2010
More free publicity for the BNP
From The Metro:
A resolution to be debated at the National Union of Teachers' (NUT) annual conference in Liverpool claims the BNP poses a threat to community relations.
It calls on the union to "reaffirm its belief" that being a member of an organisation like the BNP "is incompatible with the role of a teacher, or other member of a school staff in a democratic and multi-racial society"...
Ho hum. While not overly keen on having my own children taught by nutters (of whatever ilk and whether they are members of a particular political party or not), I don't really see this as a big issue because of the maths involved:
Total BNP membership: about 12,000.
Total number of teachers in the UK: approx. 500,000 (ten million children, one teacher for twenty children).
We don't know the percentage of BNP members who have teaching qualifications, but let's assume it's the same as the general population, around 1% (it's probably far lower), so there are no more than 120 BNP members who are already teachers or could get a job as a teacher if they wanted, i.e. one in 4,000 teachers might indeed be a BNP member.
There are certainly far more teachers than that who are BNP voters, of course, but either way, they clearly haven't brought our are oh-so-harmonious society to its knees yet, have they?
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Tuesday, 23 March 2010
Fun Online Poll
Who will you vote for* in the 2010 General Election?
* Yes, I know that should be "For whom will you vote..?"
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Tuesday, 16 February 2010
Saturday, 30 January 2010
Looking at both sides of the equation. And still coming to the wrong conclusion.
The BNP have laid into UKIP's welfare policy.
On means testing, this:
Under the heading ‘Benefit Fraud, Error and Administration’, the UKIP paper states that it “proposes to replace a myriad of complicated means-tested benefits with straightforward universal benefits, the running cost of the entire welfare and pensions systems will be no more than £1.7bn, giving a saving to the taxpayer of £8bn.”
Mr Barnes pointed out that this was the “exact opposite of what is required. All universal benefits should be scrapped and all benefits means tested. Furthermore, these figures are nonsense. The billions paid out every year to those in jobs and earning high wages in universal benefits is a disgrace (1). Prince Charles was entitled to claim universal benefits for William and Harry, therefore such a system is farcical (2)”.
On the contributory principle, this:
The UKIP paper states that it would “only allow entitlement to welfare benefits after a minimum waiting period of ten years and on obtaining British citizenship for those who originally entered the country with a valid work permit or for reasons of marriage to a British citizen. Anyone who had entered the country under any other circumstances would not qualify.”
Mr Barnes dismissed this as typical fake Tory doublespeak. “Only those who were born here and have paid in all their lives should get paid out,” Mr Barnes said.
I understand the knee-jerk idea that benefits should be means-tested (to reduce the cost to the taxpayer) and the knee-jerk idea that if you've paid more in, you get more out (these prejudices are prevalent across the political spectrum), but actually, the two ideas cancel each other out:
Consider two workers who are made redundant, through no fault of their own. Mr A has worked in the factory for twenty years, moved up the career ladder a bit, was earning a decent wage and has all but paid off his mortgage and built up some modest savings in the bank. Mr B has only worked there for one year as his first ever job and was earning a very modest wage, barely enough to cover his living costs.
The means-testing principle says that as Mr A has some assets to fall back on, Mr A should get less than Mr B.
The contributory principle says that as Mr A has been paying tax for twenty years, Mr A should get more than Mr B.
So which one is it to be? As a simplification campaigner and libertarian, it seems to me to make most sense to pay them both the same amount of welfare, which leads me to the inescapable conclusion that the best way forward is flat-rate, non-contributory, non-means-tested and hence universal benefits.
(1) No it's not a disgrace. You have to remember that universal welfare payments = tax refunds. So a paying out a flat-rate child benefit to people on high incomes is similar to giving them an extra tax-free personal allowance for each child, only simpler - they will still be paying vastly more in tax than they receive in benefits. Similarly, if we went with the BNP's suggested personal allowance of £15,000 (not without its merits, but I'd like to see their costings) then that would save everybody earning more than that about £3,000 a year in tax, whether they are postmen or Premiership footballers.
(2) Why shouldn't people like Prince Charles be able to claim a couple of thousand a year in Child Benefit? It is far more important to remember that Prince Charles, as a large landowner, also receives about half a million quid a year in agricultural subsidies; those are the subsidies we ought to scrap first before we worry about a few thousand quid in Child Benefit.
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Friday, 4 December 2009
A whole raft of shit policies, badly implemented and poorly enforced.
From The Evening Standard:
Eighty illegal migrants have been arrested after a crackdown on unlawful working at the London Olympic site.
Half were caught after using fake passports or other false documents to obtain a job. The others were detained for overstaying their visas or working despite being barred from doing so under immigration or asylum rules... (1)
[The arrests] come in the wake of Gordon Brown's pledge to provide “British jobs for British workers”.(2)
Protesters have accused 2012 bosses of using cheap agency workers, often from overseas, in breach of labour agreements. There have been further complaints about the small number of locals gaining work on the £9.3 billion project...(3)
Announcing the enforcement action, Tony Smith, the UK Border Agency's Olympics director, said: “The UK Border Agency has officers based permanently at the Olympic site to check the identity of people seeking work and to help ensure the Games are delivered on time, with a workforce legally entitled to be there. A spokesman for the ODA added: “These figures demonstrate our efforts to ensure people working on site are legally entitled to do so...” (4)
(1) Let's be honest about this. All migrants are economic migrants. Quite whom we should let in or not let in is a different topic, but once they're here, let's get them working. If you don't stop them at the border, then it's too late.
(2) Shit policy.
(3) There's plenty of money for the top level people to fill their boots, hardly surprising that so little trickles down. The fact that employers would prefer to employ foreigners is not just because they can pay them less than natives, it is because the welfare state has deliberately eroded the work ethic and the education system does not prepare young people for work - neither for simple jobs that require merely the ability to turn up on time and keep your nose to the grindstone, nor for more sophisticated engineering-type jobs.
(4) In plain text, they knew bloody well that this would happen but they have been failing miserably to deal with it.
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Thursday, 12 November 2009
We are considerably more Home-Owner-Ist than you.
From The Daily Mail:
The CML said it expects around 48,000 people will be repossessed this year, the highest number of evictions for 14 years.
The Tories slammed the Government's flagship repossession prevention policy, the Mortgage Rescue Scheme, for helping a paltry number of homeowners. Since its launch in January, just 92 families have been helped despite nearly 11,000 approaches by desperate families. Shadow Housing Minister, Grant Shapps said: 'It's time the Government stopped trying to grab quick headlines and actually brought in policies to help vulnerable families across the country.'
LibDem housing spokesman Sarah Teather added: 'Ministers have spent billions of pounds to save the banking system but their efforts to help those facing repossession have been shamefully inadequate. No Government programme has ever been as inappropriately named as the Mortgage Rescue Scheme which helped just 14 families to the end of June. We need to urgently reform mortgage law so that courts have the power to ensure that repossession is only ever a last resort.'
In a further blow, the CML predicts the number will rise even higher next year to 53,000 as homeowners lose the struggle to keep their home...
Now, as we know, Nulabour's economic miracle was based on easy credit and the illusion of wealth created by rising house prices. They've painted themselves into a bit of a corner, as the only way to keep the pyramid scheme going is to bail out banks, cut interest rates and prevent house prices from finding their equilibrium by completely re-writing the rules on repossessions, i.e. make it much more difficult for the banks to turf people out (because the flood of repo's coming onto the market would burst the bubble once and for all).
And to my surprise/annoyance, Nulabour's plans actually seem to be working. Don't forget that back in February 2009, before the new anti-repo rules had really taken effect, the CML were forecasting that there'd be 75,000 repossessions in 2009, up from 40,000 in 2008. So given that economic conditions have worsened, and assuming the CML's original forecast to be reliable, Nulabour have actually prevented, or delayed 27,000 repo's.
Now, a sensible opposition politician would point out that these 27,000 delayed repo's have come at a huge cost - all the savers have seen their returns dwindle to nothing; the taxpayer has had to stump up £170 billion* to bail out the banks; and houses are as unaffordable as ever.
A sensible politician would point out that home-ownership just isn't suitable for everybody, and that a far cheaper way to house people with low or unreliable incomes is to build a shedload of social housing. We could have built three million council houses to house every single family on the waiting lists and had plenty left over for everybody who is ever repossessed or might otherwise need one in the next two decades (which would have also deprived the BNP of a genuine grievance to exploit, natch) and still had change left over from £170 billion. And assuming that the average social rent actually collected is at least £200 a month (a fraction of what it costs for an average mortgage or private rent) it would have been more than self-financing.
So the taxpayer would have saved himself, in the long run, £170 billion. And OK, social tenants don't share in the fool's gold of ever rising house prices, but they have security of tenure, and they can put aside the money they're saving in rent/mortgage payments and build up their own proper nest-egg with real money invested in real things. You takes your money and you takes your choice.
But do the Blue or Yellow Wings of the Home-Owner-Ist Party say this? No of course not, all they can suggest is that Nulabour do even more to cosset reckless borrowers and even more to prop up house prices. Any concept of value-for-taxpayer's-money went out of the window years ago.
Twats, the lot of them.
* IMF estimate of April was £130 billion, plus another £40 billion from a week or two ago.
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Monday, 2 November 2009
Victimhood Poker - I wish him the best of luck with this one
From The Metro:
British National Party leader Nick Griffin was racially abused by a man who made threatening "gun gestures" towards him, a court heard today.
The North West MEP was giving evidence in the trial of 23-year-old Tauriq Khalid, from Burnley, who is accused of shouting "white bastards" towards Griffin and other BNP members who were demonstrating in the Lancashire town. As the far right leader gave media interviews outside Burnley police station last November, Khalid drove past and made the comment, returning shortly afterwards to make the gun gesture, Preston Crown Court was told.
The defendant denies one charge of using racially abusive threatening behaviour against Griffin. He admits he stopped his silver Vauxhall Astra at the scene but says he shouted "Nick Griffin, you f w " and the hand gesture was a V-sign.
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