Monday, 12 December 2011

John Redwood doesn't do logic

Joseph Takagi does a compare and contrast exercise.

My latest blogpost: John Redwood doesn't do logicTweet this! Posted by Mark Wadsworth at 20:23

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6 comments:

Sue said...

Good blog. Thanks for the link. He's right you know! :)

12 December 2011 at 22:04
A K Haart said...

Yes he's right. Forget the big three if you are eurosceptic.

12 December 2011 at 22:19
Anonymous said...

Disagree. I think both JR's statements are true.

Pro-EU, the Government can command a majority, provided that Labour vote with the Government.

Anti-EU, the Tories are constrained by not having sufficient Eurosceptic MPs (argued by JR as being partly due to UKIP "splitting the vote" as I understand it).

Presumably the logic runs that had the Tories more Eurosceptic MPs they would find it harder to get pro-EU measures through the commons - not because the maths of Labour voting pro-EU would outweigh the fictional 21-now-anti-EU-Tory-MPs; but because the Tory party would be even less likely to bring a pro-EU measure to the House for a vote if a greater proportion of the party at large are Eurosceptic, and they faced a greater internal rebellion (and therefore consequent loss of control over more domestic matters, etc.)

Thus both JR's contentions hold true, and don't really count as a logic failure.

13 December 2011 at 00:43
Mark Wadsworth said...

S, AKH, ta.

Anon, that's a bit long winded, just answer me this: out of those 21 hypothetical extra MPs, how many would have been EU-sceptic? On what evidence do you base this? Don't the Tories have a policy of selecting EU-friendly candidates nowadays?

13 December 2011 at 07:52
chefdave said...

Mark, You and Yours Radio 4 12-1 a land and town planning special. Worth a listen.

13 December 2011 at 12:46
Anonymous said...

He does have an opportunity to comment on welfare today though, including things like how progressive our system should be, etc.

13 December 2011 at 23:30

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