Tuesday, 9 August 2016

"No sorry, the speed skating is not on for another two years..."

... says the German beach volleyball player politely, while making the international symbol for c**t behind her back.



Pic from BBC

12 comments:

Ben Jamin' said...

Nope, that's the International sign for "slapper". Sarcasm I think.

Rich Tee said...

But where would they be without Lycra? Invented by a filthy infidel in the USA in 1958. Death to America!

Mark Wadsworth said...

BJ, is it really or are you making that up?

RT, exactly. Although compared to other Arab countries, Egypt is quite progressive.

George Carty said...

You do realize don't you that jihadists and Islamophobes are like Nazis and Communists -- each using the other's evils to justify their own...

Karlyn Weather said...

Indeed George..I agree with you.







Karlyn@HAUS

Mark Wadsworth said...

GC, beach volleyball players and speed skaters also use the other's evils to justify their own.

Historically, you are way off piste. Hitler wanted to invade Russia, full stop and required no real reasons whatsoever. He did not put out propaganda highlighting the evils of Communism (the labour camps, the purges, the mass starvation etc). Neither did Stalin seem to have worried too much about the Nazis attacking the USSR.

Rich Tee said...

It's a false analogy that is over-simplified.

Nazis and communists were the same race - white European - arguing over political ideology.

Jihadists and Islamophobes are different races and religions. Jihadists are determined to impose their religion on everybody else and have them live in constant fear, and Islamophobes are frightened that they will succeed in doing so. In this respect, Islamophobia is perfectly rational. A phobia is an irrational fear.

mombers said...

@RT, jihadaphobia is perfectly rational, Islamophobia is not in my opinion. Being scared of 1.2bn or whatever people can't be rational.

DBC Reed said...

The most reliable papers ( the Mail etc,) describe this sign, when used by Merkel and May, as denoting their membership of the Illuminati.

Bayard said...

"Being scared of 1.2bn or whatever people can't be rational."

Here we go again, again. It's worse than that, it's being scared of a tiny percentage of 1.2bn people, a tiny percentage of which tiny percentage "are determined to impose their religion on everybody else and have them live in constant fear". It's no more rational than fearing Germans because of the Red Brigades or the Irish because of the UDF.

Mark Wadsworth said...

DBC, yes, because the Illuminati are all c**ts. Allegedly.

B, it is completely different entirely, it is so different as you cannot imagine. Why not say "no more rational than fearing the Italians because of the Mafia or Yanks because of the KKK or NRA"?

All those groups are tiny minorities within their own countries, the majority do not share their beliefs, none of these groups have taken over whole countries or declared war on the western way of life etc. A German is mainly a German etc. But a large and significant proportion of Muslims consider themselves Muslim first and their actual official nationality is of no relevance to them.

Bayard said...

"Why not say "no more rational than fearing the Italians because of the Mafia or Yanks because of the KKK or NRA"

Yes, good examples.

"All those groups are tiny minorities within their own countries, the majority do not share their beliefs, none of these groups have taken over whole countries or declared war on the western way of life etc."

Beliefs are not responsible for their believers. Do you feel that all Christians are responsible for the excesses of the nominally Christian Nazi regime or that all Communists are responsible for Stalin's purges? Would you abandon Georgism if some idiot committed an atrocity and then said he was a Georgist? If not, why tar the entire Muslim religion with the brush of the extremism of a tiny proportion of fanatics within their midst? A Muslim in Indonesia has even less control over what his co-religionists say and do in the UK than you have over what the British Government does here, but do you feel any personal responsibility for the pols' excesses and blunders?

"But a large and significant proportion of Muslims consider themselves Muslim first and their actual official nationality is of no relevance to them."

Well, many Muslim nations were simply made up after the WWI by the French and the British in a way that enable them to retain control of the oil reserves of the Middle East, or by the Soviets for the same sort of reason, so it is hardly surprising that people in these artificially created states feel little identification with them. It is not a valid comparison with Europe, where the creation of states round peoples is reflected in their names. A German may be mainly a German, but, until relatively recently, they were actually a Hanoverian or a Saxon or a member of one of the many states that made up Germany, yet still thought of themselves as Germans.

In any case, a large and significant proportion of Christians consider themselves part of a Christian "nation". We even have a word for this "nation", "Christendom". A large chunk of Christendom has a single ruler with considerable power, the Pope.