Sunday 9 October 2011

Next week? That could be years away!

From the BBC:

William Hague has warned Tory Eurosceptics hoping to get powers back from the EU that the opportunity for doing so could be "many years" away.

Many Tory MPs believe that the UK has an opportunity to repatriate some powers if eurozone states seek closer fiscal integration and a treaty change. But the foreign secretary told the BBC: "We are not at that point."


Funnily enough, the EU is currently trying to bully the eurozone states into 'closer fiscal integration' (via things like the ESM, and secondary to that, the EFSF, both of which are completely not allowed under the existing Treaty as it stands) and, because this requires an amendment to the actual EU treaty, the amendment itself does require the agreement of the UK parliament (which they are currently looking at).

On the one hand, it isn't up to the UK to interfere in treaties between other countries, but on the other, now would be an absolutely ideal time to ask the EU to 'repatriate some powers' to us.

So I think what Hague actually means is "The current amendment to the Treaty seems fairly minor and technical to most people, who all assume that the ESM, EFSF etc is a done deal anyway, so we can get away with not calling an in-out Referendum holding any sort of referendum whatsoever, because we only promised you one of those if there was a 'major transfer of powers'" which, to be fair, is probably true if you squint at it sideways in bad visibility.

But what the "many Tory MPs" said is absolutely true on face value, no squinting involved. They must really hate Hague by now.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't believe we were promised an in/out referendum if major transfer of power were proposed but a referendum on that change only.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Anon, that's a fair point, I have amended the post accordingly.

QP said...

Which is why the entire European project has been allowed to proceed via many small incremental changes thus minimising the need for referenda, or indeed, democracy.

Bob said...

All the so called eurosceptic MPs and MEPs continually vote for closer and closer EU integration and for any new treaties. Despite what they might say in public. There aren't any eurosceptic Tories who would ever vote against any more EU integration in case it upsets their chances of climbing the ladder. But they can talk a good eurosceptic story to keep the sheep happy.

Bayard said...

The secret weapon of the Tory party is loyalty. Rock the boat and you're out in the wilderness, even if not stewarding the Chiltern Hundreds. Which is why a minority of Blue Socialists have been able to take over the government.

James Higham said...

to ask the EU to 'repatriate some powers' to us

As an academic exercise yes. The EU will collapse before it happens in any substantial way.

Mark Wadsworth said...

QP, B, B, yup, that's how it works.

JH, to be honest, it's this terminology "repatriating powers" which hacks me off most of all. The UK government behaves like one of those women (or indeed men) who stay in an abusive relationship, knowing full well we could walk out at any time.

Woman on a Raft said...

behaves like one of those women (or indeed men) who stay in an abusive relationship, knowing full well we could walk out at any time.

Good analogy.