From The Daily Mail:
Drinking alcohol can increase your risk of cancer because ethanol is itself a carcinogen on certain parts of the body, scientists have found. Researchers said they found that when ethanol is broken down by the body, it can cause DNA damage that may lead to dangerous changes to the cells.
The U.S team from the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism in Maryland, used human cells engineered to produce an enzyme that is found in liver and breast tissue...
Righty ho. No risk of them being in any way biased as to what sort of outcome they were looking for, eh?
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Imo alcohol is poison (and bloody expensive) so I choose to limit my intake, but I don't really care what others do with their bodies, that's their concern, not mine.
It's well-known, and they state "... approximately 30 percent of East Asians are unable to metabolize alcohol to acetate due to a genetic variant in the ALDH2 gene..."
(hence the stories about Japanese businessmen getting bladdered while their European counterparts are still looking forward to the rest of the evening out)
What they don't say is that non-East Asians don't have this variant.
My ALDH2 is fine. They can piss off.
And ethanol at what concentration? I bet it wasn't 5% ABV. Now, let me see, when we cook meat as in grill, fry, flame roast etc, we get.....benzepyrenes, Maillard reaction products and if cured, nitrosamines. Now, why are we all not dead age 20 with rampant gut cancers? Cos we have naturally evolved defences over the millennia to take care of these chemicals and even the bloody acrylamidectraces that are created.
So these 'prohibition' boys can go away for sex.
got to die of something. Still haven't found a more pleasurable way than alcohol of achieving same. If these VIs really want to influence me they need to find me a better way of dieing. Like "having sex when sober causes cancer" or similar.
CD, correct.
VFTS, I didn't even bother reading that far :-)
Ch, that was my first thought when they came up with this crap about barbecuing causing cancer. It may well not be the healthiest way of cooking, but we'd been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years, so I'm sure we've built up some sort of immunity by now.
Anon, that's the point. Drinking or smoking never killed anybody ever, never have done, never will (short of victims of drink drive accidents and non-smokers who die in house fires), they merely shortens people's life spans a bit.
They came for the smokers but I wasn't a smoker...
They came for the obese but being slim I didn't give a toss.
They came for the drinker, 'ere wait a minute I like a drink, Ha ha ha said the smokers and the obese - suck it up.
And if we feed rats the equivalent of 3oz of salt per kilo of food they develop high blood pressure.
I wonder how many volts we need to give medical researchers before they lose their control freak tendencies.
I need a drink after that.
I wonder how many volts we need to give medical researchers before they lose their control freak tendencies.
Medical researchers are not control freaks. Control freaks can be found in all walks of life and any profession. The ones with no actual vocation just become politicians. They love hearing their own voice and seeing their name in print, and to do that they get themselves voted to the trade union or council of their profession, which is why you hear all the hot air from their mouths all the time.
Most researchers smoke and go for a pint every evening. Just pop by your nearest heart or cancer centre and stand outside the entrance for a while.
Mark you should just stick to economics and drawings. Of course BBQs cause cancer, many things do. The point is they don't cause it in everyone. And the ultimate cause of most cancers can never be known, it's all down to risk factors.
You can kill 3quarters of your liver before you begin to notice anything. Even if you drink double the government's recommedations every day, it will take 10-20 years to kill off that much, and if you give it a rest some will grow back. And what's more, this only happens to about 20% of heavy drinkers. Same for frequent BBQers. But you don't know if it will happen to you until 20 years after you start engaging in so-called risky behaviour continuously.
Loads of doctors smoke and drink, but they know how to deal with it and they know the risks. The problem is they are also in charge of their NHS budgets and can see how much money is wasted on treating the same 1% of drunks over and over. And when this information filters up to the bureaucrats, their response, like always, is to penalise the majority.
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