From page 67 of the Independent Banking Commission's Interim Report:
4.21 A bank’s loss-absorbing capacity consists of the equity of the owners of the business, and non-equity liabilities or debt, which are contractual claims against the bank.
This section starts with a discussion of equity, the most straightforward and well-understood form of loss-absorbing capacity. This includes an assessment of how much equity systemically important banks should be required to hold.
But debt also needs to be made loss-absorbing, to improve market discipline on banks’ risk taking and to ensure that creditors take losses before the taxpayer. So this section also considers ways in which the effective loss-absorbency of bank debt can be improved.
Three tools are considered:
•debt instruments that absorb loss at some point while the bank is still viable (‘contingent capital’);
•liabilities that absorb loss at the point of non-viability (‘bail-inable debt’); and
•depositor preference, i.e. ranking (at least some) depositors above other unsecured creditors in a bank insolvency, which can have the effect of increasing the loss-absorbing capacity of other parts of a bank’s liability structure.
In simple terms, the Commission suggests a kind of pre-programmed and rolling 'debt-for-equity-swap', the key to this being that depositors rank above bank bonds (quite where you draw the line is a separate issue), only I'm not sure it goes far enough.
Strictly speaking and in any logical world, any deposits covered by the FSCS guarantee (the first £85,000 per depositor, for sake of argument) would rank ahead of any bonds, whether secured, unsecured or otherwise; alternatively, HM Government in its infinite wisdom could just imply a term in its insolvency legislation saying that deposits are in fact secured, and thus are the last to bear losses*, end of discussion.
* For sure, in extreme cases (I'm not aware of any in the UK), a bank might lose so much money that it doesn't even have enough to repay all depositors, in which case the taxpayer has to chip in - with the caveat that any compensation is paid directly to the depositors (as was the case with compensation for people who lost money with Icelandic banks) and not handed over to the bank in return for the vague promise to behave in future.
Triple layer tinfoil
2 hours ago
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Why has your poll on illegal imigrants not got this option.
Annouce that the following will happen
1) They will never become legal. (At the moment illegals can become legal after a time. I know people who have done this.)
2) When we can they will be deported - even if we have to wait for them to reach 65 or whatever and ask for a pension
3) We will count foreigners in and out of the country. Those from countries which have a bad record for over staying will have to get a refundable bond when they come here(refundable when they leave)
4) If we can not deport people we will lock them up somewhere cheap maybe the Ukraine - until we can. We will not waste money detaining people in the UK.
Isn't this all just smoke and mirrors?
Politicians,academics and bureaucrats have been trying since year dot to come up with the perfect regulation that will prevent the next crisis, but each attempt fails because they're not addressing the root cause.
If it ain't hurting it ain't working, and there's no way a bit of regulation buried deep in a gov't report will prevent collapse next time around.
New Labour could have done all this anyway!
Anon a) that's too long and b) that's the same as the first option.
CD, sound banking rules would not prevent credit and house price bubbles to any great degree, that is true, but at least we (taxpayers) wouldn't be bailing them out when it all goes wrong.
Tangential I know but I cannot find anywhere info on any formal guarantee given by the Icelandic government to Darling by which the Icelanders undertook to repay the UK for the Treasury bail-out of private UK depositors in the (then) private Icelandic banks. If there was no such guarantee, on what basis does Iceland owe us anything for a unilateral decision (accompanied by the seizure of Icelandic assets in the UK) by Brown/Darling to use taxpayers' money to buy votes from those naive enough to put their hard-earned cash into well-publicised dodgy banks (for minimal interest rate advantage)?
U, the whole 'guarantee' thing is very murky, but what is relatively un-murky is that Brown/Darling only took security over stuff over which Icelandic banks in turn had security (various companies and land/buildings) - and fair play to them for that. They didn't go and impound the Icelandic ambassdor's car or anything.
Re banks, see Carswell's amendment. Essentially he proposes that there needs to be two types of bank depositors. Those that require 100% secure deposits for their savings and those who are prpeared to accept a higher risk, for a higher reward. This fundamentally changes the banks position on depositirs money - it ceases to be the banks money and is now (as it should be) the depositirs money. That plus the debt for equity swap stuff should pretty well sort out the banks - IMHO.
Apropos this it would be very interesting to see how the market develops were this implemented. You can see real deposit rate competition coming in plus all sort of novel ideas for services for current accout holders.
L, IIRC this was in your banking manifesto - but in a free market, and provided the rules were set correctly (i.e. no FSCS), would banks not offer such accounts anyway?
PS, I'm not sure what they'll invest in once we've repaid all government bonds :-)
MW - Gold? Or other bullion, e.g. silver?
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