Monday 25 October 2010

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery (1)

From The Daily Mail 25 October 2010:

The state pension system is to be given the biggest shake-up since its inception more than 50 years ago. Ministers are planning a simplified payment which will see everyone receive the same amount – around £140 a week, far more than at present.

The proposal, to be detailed in a Green Paper before the end of the year, would benefit women and married couples. It would also end the indignity of means testing and, say coalition sources, will pay for itself, largely by reducing bureaucracy...

Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith and Pensions Minister Steve Webb are suggesting a new ‘single tier’ state pension which would replace all existing payments. If paid at the expected £140 a week, that would mean an income of £7,280 per year or £14,560 for a pensioner couple...

The payment would be based on citizenship or residency, with British citizens or anyone who has been living in Britain for a fixed number of years qualifying.


From UKIP's Pensions Policy Paper, April 2010:

In summary, the current system is shambolic, with a complicated system of form filling, means testing and requirements to apply for benefits and assistance. Many older people find this process demeaning, complicated and some as a result fail to claim everything they are entitled to. This has the effect of worsening their economic situation. The current system clearly needs a radical overhaul.

UKIP therefore proposes a radical simplification. We feel that every pensioner aged 65 or over, whether single, widowed, married or cohabiting, should have the choice between:

• Continuing to claim their existing BSP/S2P (and various other minor benefits), and;

• Claiming a non-taxable, non-means tested “Citizen’s Pension” of at least £130 per week, equivalent to the current Pensions Credit level (plus value of free TV licence and Winter Fuel Allowance). A couple, who are both over 65, would be entitled to at least £260 per week.

• The important difference between the Citizen’s Pension and The Pension Credit will be its simplicity. It will not be means-tested and will be paid out at the higher of a) £130 per week; and b) the total of an individual’s existing taxpayer funded or public sector pensions (information which the Pensions Service and the various government departments should be able to compile relatively easily), so it will not be reduced if a pensioner (or their spouse or partner) has a private pension or other savings and investment income...

There has been some anger over the perception that recent arrivals to the UK are getting the same entitlements as people who have lived here all their lives. The Citizen’s Pension will therefore also be based on the length of Citizenship. The amount will be reduced pro rata if the claimant has not lived in the UK for forty years prior to retirement.


Spotter's badge: Tim Aker.

11 comments:

Lola said...

Quelle surprise. Someone in the Coalition can read!

I heard it too, and it cheered me up after being forced awake by the dulcet tones of that utter wanker Will Hutton being wheeled out by the BBC to talk bollocks again.

Scott Wright said...

Darn it, just popped onto the blog to see if this had been spotted yet or not.. Tim beat me to it.

Excellent news though, IDS is shaping up to be a very good minister indeed.

Scott Wright said...

Regarding your choice of title, I'd say the reality is "imitation is the best way to damage the competition" if they implement a large chunk of our policy, what have we got left except the pressure group angle?

Mark Wadsworth said...

L, all of us policy guys nick each others ideas :-)

SW, there is an element of that, but hey. What if the UK government simply start adopting ALL our policies? Firstly we can constantly point this out - thus cementing our reputation as a mainstream party of common sense, and secondly, if they adopted them all, our work would be done.

Lola said...

Looking into this a bit deeper it seesm that the proposed 'citizens pension' is going to be 'paid for' by cancelling the right of people to choose to opt out of the SERPS/SSP.

So it's being funded by more tax then?

Quelle surprise 2.

Mark Wadsworth said...

L, that opt out right is worth very little, and UKIP would have scrapped it as well, to be fair.

Lola said...

MW - I Know I Know. I think the existing situation is bonkers, and should be scrapped. But, the point is that it's the same old, same old spin stuff again. And people 'contract out' to get their money back. Basically they decide whom they least distrust to cheat them, insurers or the gummint' and act accordingly.

Ed said...

s going to be 'paid for' by cancelling the right of people to choose to opt out of the SERPS/SSP

Questions:
1. Will SSP still exist as an extra pension based on contributions and income? Or will it be folded into the new, higher BSP?
2. If the new pension is not based upon contributions, what will immigrants get? What about British ex-pats returning home to retire in the UK?

Mark Wadsworth said...

Ed,

1. I suspect it will all be chucked in the pot. This goes back to Turner's pension reform ideas of a few years ago, which the previous government was slowly implementing, all of which lead ineluctably towards a Citizen's Pension (so, for example, women's additional years adjustment for having had kids is superfluous).

2. The article suggests they will get less. As to ex-pats, I have no idea.

Derek said...

For ex-pats the final state pension all depends on whether they have continued to pay class III NI contributions or not while abroad. Missing contributions mean a reduced UK pension.

TheFatBigot said...

A fine proposal, next they need to hike the income tax threshold before moving to a flat rate. One can but dream.