Saturday, 13 March 2010

Carbon Fun

From The Times:

Throwing money at tatty buildings might not seem like a great investment (1) but a new consortium is planning to plough £350 million into buying and refurbishing old offices that pose an environmental threat.

The Carbon Trust (2), Threadneedle (3) and Stanhope, the property developer (4), have set up the Threadneedle LowCarbon Workplace Trust to invest in decarbonising buildings, a move that could help to meet government targets. The green commercial property fund, open to institutional investors (5), will be the largest of its kind in the UK and is a sign of the growing demand (6) from investors for exposure to such ventures...

David Camp, the chief executive of Stanhope, said: “The timing is right from an economic and a carbon-challenge perspective to launch this fund. Not only is there money to be made in refurbishing existing building stock while there is a dearth of new development, but occupiers, especially those who will be affected by the Carbon Reduction Commitment (7), are looking for more support in managing their carbon emissions.”...

The Policy Exchange, the public policy think-tank, has estimated that Britain needs to spend about £400 billion on new and refurbished infrastructure by 2020 (8). Meanwhile, more than 90 per cent of offices in the Investment Property Databank index are more than ten years old and “highly unlikely” to conform to present or future efficiency rules, Threadneedle said (9).


1) If the increase in rents you can charge exceeds the amortised expense, then of course it is a good idea, duh.

2) Fakecharity.

3) Rentseeker-cum-subsidy junkie.

4) See (3)

5) i.e. 'your pension funds'.

6) And why might demand be growing? See (7)

7) And who made this 'Commitment'? The government, perhaps? Nobody knows for sure what the external costs of 'carbon emissions' are (a stupid abbreviation for 'carbon dioxide emissions'. The only businesses that emit actual carbon are coal mines, AFAIAA), but they are sure as heck a lot less than the actual cost of energy to the end-user. Assuming that businesses act rationally, it is fair to assume that they will try and minimise their energy bills, ergo, it is fair to assume that businesses are already trying to minimise their 'carbon emissions'.

8) That's about £40 billion per year, which is approximately equal to the amount that UK households spend on domestic fuel bills every year, or twice as much as businesses spend on heating and ventilating their buildings.

9) So they've tapped into a rich seam of subsidies that will extend way into the future. Tasty.

7 comments:

Antisthenes said...

BBC says:

About 500 volunteers holding flaming torches are illuminating Hadrian's Wall from coast to coast.

Whats the carbon cost of that?

Bill Quango MP said...

Antisthenes : And what's the point of it?

John B said...

The only businesses that emit actual carbon are coal mines

also diamond mines...

James Higham said...

a stupid abbreviation for 'carbon dioxide emissions

Yep, I sincerely hope I'm not emitting straight carbon.

woman on a raft said...

And pencil factories. If they didn't emit carbon they would just be selling wooden tubes. Pointless.

Mark Wadsworth said...

A, indeed. Although isn't it called carbon "footprint" not carbon "cost?

BQ, I think it was just for fun. No harm in that.

JB, I did consider mentioning diamonds, but I don't think the quantities are significant.

JH, do you ever cough up lumps of coal or diamonds? if not, you're pretty safe.

WOAR, I like the idea of wooden tubes, but strictly speaking, pencil 'leads' are a mixture of carbon (i.e. graphite) and clay.

Robin Smith said...

If we assume the Building Regs Part L we can expect a pretty energy efficient home will be built. Trouble is whenever homes have been inspected, they have been so poorly built, they fail on the regs 50% of the time. I assume the same will be the case for commercial property.

So any scheme to commit commerce to carbon reductions is pissing in the wind regardless of climate change or not. I told them this at inception of the CRC 3 years ago. I just got annoying looks from the then head of the program. I canceled my subscription to the consultation immediately.

What is so galling is that an energy efficient building, in the end, is cheaper to run over say 20 years. Whats more it is far more comfortable to live and work in. Old buildings are a problem but we should not subsidise them to keep them standing. Demolish them and build something cheaper and ore useful.

Useful building nominal lifetime is about 60 years.