Friends of the Earth explain how they calculated that a loaf of bread would cost £6.50 and a pint of beer £18 in 21 years time here:
The price of staple foods is set to rocket four and a half times above normal inflation (1) because the changing climate will put extra stress on land and resources around the world, exacerbating the existing food crisis...
Spiralling costs of basics like bread, rice and pasta will mean that many million (2) more people will struggle to buy enough food to keep healthy.
The figures have been produced by Ray Hammond, a leading expert in predicting future social and economic trends and Visiting Lecturer at the University of Oxford's Institute for the Future of Humanity. He modeled the future prices of consumer foodstuffs for Friends of the Earth using previous price hikes (3) recorded by the World Bank and projections by the International Food Policy Research Institute.
Projected prices of other staple foods in 2030 include:
£6.48 for a 800g loaf of white bread (now 72p, would be £1.44 with normal inflation)...
£18.45 for a pint of Pilsner lager (now £2.05, would be £4.05 with normal inflation)
(1) If they assume that prices will double in 21 years anyway, that equates to underlying annual inflation of 3.4% =(2^(1/21))-1. For bread to rise to 4.5 times its current price, the annual inflation would be 7.4% =(4.5^(1/21))-1. So the phrase "four and a half times above normal inflation" was clearly penned by somebody who has no idea what he is talking about; that looks more like "food prices will increase at twice the normal rate of inflation" to me.
(2) At those prices, half the world's population would have starved to death, so they mean "billions" not "many million". Twats.
(3) We know that the price of a loaf has increased a lot over the past few years:
1970 - 9p
1980 - 33p
1990 - 50p
2000 - 52p
2007 - 94p
i.e. it's doubled over the last ten years (annual inflation 7%). So if we use the last ten years to predict the next twenty, a £6.48 loaf is not entirely unfeasible (see also point 4 below).
But the further back you look, the less dramatic the increase. In fact, the price of a loaf increased more or less exactly in line with inflation between 1970 and 2007. So if you use the last forty years to predict the next twenty, we'd expect a loaf to cost £1.44 in 2030.
So far so bad.
I'd guess that the cost of wheat is a large part of the cost of bread, so the price of a loaf must track the price of wheat. But the cost of the ingredients in a pint of beer are negligible - five pence or ten pence, perhaps - the rest is brewing, bottling/canning, transport and taxes. So even if the price of those ingredients went up ten-fold, that doesn't have to add more than 50p or £1 to the price of a pint (assuming other costs and taxes remain the same).
(4) People from Oxford have got form for this, i..e Professor Stephen Nickell who predicted house prices twenty years into the futures on the basis of the last few years' increases and bravely predicted that an average house would cost ten times average earnings by 2026.
Wednesday, 28 October 2009
Fun with numbers: The £18 pint of beer
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So, why has the price of a loaf doubled in the last ten years? Looks like upping the price when wheat goes up and "forgetting" to drop it when the price comes down to me.
I think this is a typo - 1.3% (=2^(1/21)) I make it 3.4%?
RLJ, why did food prices jump two years ago? Nobody really knows. It's the same with the 2008 oil price bubble. Nobody really knows why that happened either.
I have amended typo.
So they're basically saying that we should get pissed and stuff ourselves while we still can? I'm down with that..
Soft commodity prices jumped because lots of people started speculating on them in my opinion.
There was some guy in the Telegraph trying to talk us round into believing there will be a new bull run on food soon the other day too.
3.4% =(2^(1/21))-1. For bread to rise to 4.5 times its current price, the annual inflation would be 7.4% =(4.5^(1/21))-1.
Do you enjoy that sort of thing, Mark?
JH, I've worked in tax and accounts for twenty years, it's second nature.
Any price rises will be based on the tax treatment at the time, the cost of the basic ingredients as determined by speculators and whether people are prepared to pay the prices asked.
Mathematical extrapolation has little to do with it.
I remember some 'experts' stating unequivocally that house prices would rise to the point that 20 X income mortgages would be required to own a kennel!
JT, good points, but we know that demand for alcohol is quite price-inelastic (amount consumed is no lower in Finland than in Greece, despite it costs five or ten times as much).
Who was so dumb as to say house prices would be twenty times income? It wasn't Kirsty Allsop, was it?
Another thing about bread prices, are they taking onto account the supermarket value brands?
I'd say bread prices have fallen to some extent in real terms if you take the likes of Tesco value into account.
47p a loaf now.
SL, Tesco Value loaves were 25p each three years ago - I remember buying four and taking the kids to feed the birds.
Bread prices tend to rise when wheat prices rise,(as they did in 2008), but oddly enough don't fall back so much when the wheat price falls (as it has since 2008, currently half its peak price). Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why this is?
I think the best way to measure food prices is in relation to earnings. We spend less on food as a % of our wages than we did even 10 years ago, despite a slight rise over the last year or so.
If you think the price rises of the last 18 months are bad, try going back to spending 25% of your income on food, as they did in the 1920s and 30s.
No mention of the amount of land recently given over to growing bio-fuels as the cause of price rises for basic foods ?
The nicest bread I ever ate was in small villages in late communist era Romania, cost next to nothing.
Yep, the important thing is how long* it takes the average person to buy the average loaf.
*More important that it takes less time in the future.
It also takes no account of substitution effects on price. Calories after all are reasonably fungible.
I disagree AC1, there's nothing like a lazy Sunday afternoon baking a loaf of fresh bread.
Cooking is also my hobby (I make some top Pizzas from scratch), but it's not the most economically effective use of my time.
I have watched the cultivation of wheat in the fields around my home and I reckon each crop requires 6 to 7 passes by a machine. Wheat is sunshine and diesel. Fuel prices directly affect cereal prices.
Banned, even the UN said that two years ago, two-thirds of the price rise was down to bio-fuel-f***wittery.
L, to some extent, it must do. Let's go with what Sobers says.
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