Wednesday 6 May 2009

My response to "Tax, spending and pensions"

As a pragmatarian, I find it useful to look at facts, figures and logic before deciding on policies. While this post is quite correct in saying that the government wastes about £100 billion a year (or one-fifth of state spending) and calling for a rabid simplification of the tax code, it gets a bit rocky towards the end:

1. "...while there are currently four potential workers to support every pensioner, by 2050 there'll only be two."

That's an irrelevant factoid. What is relevant is the number of productive workers-to-everybody else. There are currently rather less than 30 million productive workers supporting a population of over 60 million (incl. pensioners, quangocrats, children, students, unemployed, stay-at-home parents etc). Sure, we'll have more older people in future, but by the same token we'll have fewer children, who cost just as much as a pensioner (child benefits plus education = old age benefits plus higher NHS costs). As long as half, or nearly half, the population is in productive employment, we'll be fine - we can easily achieve that by cutting taxes and regulations; scrapping the quangocracy; reducing means testing of benefits and nudging up the pension age by one month every year.

2. "I'd follow Chile's lead and introduce compulsory private savings accounts, in place of national insurance contributions."

National Insurance is just a tax of course. So if you cut taxes (which are used to pay for current pensions), would you a) increase other taxes to pay for current pensions (which defeats the object), or b) cut current pensions (which is a political non-starter)?

3. What are these compulsory savings accounts going to invest in? Shares? UK plc only pays about £40 billion in dividends annually, so even if all pensioners owned all shares, the total payout would be about half the state pension plus other bits and pieces. So with a large pool of money chasing a small number of shares, this would just artificially drive up share prices.

Surely, the big problems with existing old age benefits are: the means-testing (which discourages lower earners from saving); the sex discrimination (women retire earlier but live longer; men receive higher S2P/SERPS so women get bonus years for 'caring responsibilities' and more means-tested benefits which more or less makes up the gap); the massive tax breaks for pension contributions (in the order of £50 billion per annum, which are of necessity regressive, thus increasing the tax burden on lower earners making it even harder for them to save, and the bulk of which are swallowed by the pensions 'industry' anyway); and the investment risk associated with pension savings.

How about, er, accepting the fact that we commit 5% of GDP to taxpayer-funded old age pensions* (as we do now) and dishing it out as a flat-rate non-means tested Citizen's Pension to all residents over 65 + 1 month per year, which at present would work out at about £140 each per week? Scrapping tax breaks for pensions would enable further significant tax cuts (like scrapping VAT entirely) and with a PAYGO system, there is absolutely no investment risk.

What's not to like?

* And half as much again for public sector pensions, see in the comments.

9 comments:

Obnoxio The Clown said...

What's not to like?Plenty, if you're a trough-snuffling civil servant or politician.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Obo, my 5% figure doesn't include public sector pensions. If we scrap those as well, then that's another £30 billion saved and we're really motoring!

Stan said...

I have an issue with your suggestion that roughyly 30 million are in productive employment. Roughly one third of those are public sector workers and not producing anything. They take far more from the tax revenue than they contribute back into it.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Stan, I hedged my bets and said 'rather less than 30 million', NB, there are 24 million in private sector and 8 million in taxpayer-funded sector. Maybe 7 million of those are unproductive, which makes fixing the pensions issue even easier.

Lola said...

...especially if you switch of the public sector FS schemes and replae them with money purchase schemes

Matthew said...

Isn't £140/week though less than the CBI you want to introduce? And wouldn't that actually mean a huge drop in income for pensioners given they would now have to pay for healthcare and other previously government-provided services*. Or would it be in addition?

* I realise it helps if we assume 7/8th of those do not in fact exist.

Mark Wadsworth said...

M, £140 per week is the total UK spending on cash benefits for the elderly (excluding non-cash benefits like NHS) divided by number of over-65s living in the UK (give or take £5 a week).

Matthew said...

Sorry I'm being unclear. Would this replace the CBI for pensioners or be supplementary?

Mark Wadsworth said...

Matthew, if you add up state pension, SERPS/S2P, Pensions Credit, Winter Fuel, TV licence and other cash benefits and divide it by ten million people aged > 65 years in UK, you get about £140 a week as a 'Citizen's Pension'.

Very few people would be worse off* if we replaced the whole lot with a flat-rate non-taxable CP, and as the CP wouldn't be means tested it wouldn't discourage people from saving up for their old age.

* As a transitional measure, those with state pension plus SERPS > £140 can continue to claim their state pension plus SERPS.

(Going one further, people with public sector pensions would be able to choose the higher of their public sector pension and the £140 - that's where some real savings come in!!)