As I said after the Kingsnorth Six were acquitted:
A little tip for E.On: in future don't press criminal charges in cases like this. Take a straightforward civil case, in which case there are no criminal penalties, you just put in a claim for the costs of cleaning off graffiti and loss of earnings from having to shut down operations for a couple of days etc.
I was thus delighted to read this in The London Paper:
CLIMATE change protesters face being sued for more than £2m after admitting bringing chaos to Stansted Airport. Twenty-two demonstrators from the group Plane Stupid have been sentenced after pleading guilty to aggravated trespass in a demonstration on 8 December.
The protest, to highlight the impact of aviation on the environment, closed the airport for five hours and caused the cancellation of 57 Ryanair flights that were due to carry nearly 7,000 passengers. A further 52,000 passengers had their travel plans disrupted as later flights were also delayed.
Ryanair suffered £ 2m in costs and airport owner BAA is considering whether to claim back the losses by launching a civil action . Eighteen protesters have been ordered to complete community service orders of between 50 and 90 hours. Two have been given fines of £ 130 and £ 160, one was given a referral order, and another was handed a conditional discharge.
As ever, the criminal penalties were derisory, but in this case, that's not the point. Let's assume that the judge who hears the civil action lives in the real world (unlikely, but bear with me) and actually awards BAA £2 million damages plus costs. Great, there were about 50 protestors in total, so that's £40,000 each, which they probably won't be able to pay so either they'll go bankrupt (result!) or these Greenie organisations will have a whip round and pick up the tab (which is far more likely).
Then next time they try it, BAA will up the ante, on the basis that the 59,000 passengers ought to be compensated as well let's say £100 each for a wasted day, loss of holiday etc, that adds a princely £5.9 million to the claim. If the respondents wail and moan and claim they can't afford it (notwithstanding that this is not a mitigating factor), the claimants will just point out that the Greenies will do a whip round for them. So that's an award of £7.9 million plus 50% mark up for the shyster lawyers.
So the Greenies have a another whip round and some other bunch of cranks does it again. At the next civil action, BAA then demands exemplary damages on top, call it £10 million plus legal fees, the Greenie organisations have another whip round...
And so on, until an ever smaller number of Greenies gets sick and tired of stumping up ever larger amounts of cash for these protestors and one day a bunch of them really are made bankrupt.
All right, unlikely but possible.
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10 comments:
Mark,
Lovely thought - if only on all fronts, especiallly a judge with 'spherical courage'!
Can't unfortunately see it happening though!
Suggest you call your idea 'Greenie Weedkiller' - make the idiots 'wither and disappear'!
I once had dinner with a bunch of vegetarians (don't ask)... I'm thinking now that I should sue for the emotional distress. Oh, and the double cheese burger I had to buy on the way home.
;-)
"Joe Ryle, a sixth-form student from Hornsey who was given a three-month conditional discharge, said: "It's pretty scary what's happening now. Most of us haven't got any money and a fair few of us are at school and the ones at university already have big debts.
"It seems if Ryanair follows this through and wins, we'll be paying money to Michael O'Leary for decades, and all because we think our parents' generation failed us so we decided to actually do something about climate change.""
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha! *snort*
Welcome to the real world, Joe. Not like they told you in 'social studies', is it?
Actions have consequences... :)
Thank you, Michael O'Leary. Thank you.
Would BA or Virgin have done likewise? Ryanair are a non-U airline that's hated by the political classes so much that they've got nothing to lose pursuing these criminals.
have to laugh this posting you are talking like bush next post your against him. Even if we are wrong we are still running out of oil so the policy to shift to renewables has never been such an acute need to ensure a smoother transfer when peak is reached. Also this removes middle east influences providing socioeconomic stability in the long term. Not realized how short sighted you where
JuliaM, that quote was worthy of a whole 'nother post!!
Anon, grow up. We moved 'smoothly' from horse drawn transport to railway and hence to motor car and aeroplane. We moved 'smoothly' from coal to oil to gas or nuclear powered electricity generation, and if and when the oil runs out in a century or two, we will move 'smoothly' to whatever they invent next.
mark
Unusually agressive ref to my maturity glad to have hit a raw nerve. I am not that worldly when it comes to economics but was amazed the effect of $147 dolar barrels on the world excomomy - along with the rest of it how high and how quickly when production no longereets demand. Each thing you mention was a slow progression car ownership for example is still growing today (or was) and therefor to my point of the sooner we get going the smoother the change will be! Hopefully then we mitigate some of the risk and let's face this is a huge risk we are taking. You obviously don't have children to care about. Let's think long term and avoid any brown or bushisms attitudes in future! Good luck with your slow and progressive change.
Ben
Ps good blog keep it up.
juliem
I think that's his point re - actions have consequences.
Ben, I in turn was not amazed when the oil bubble burst again, it's back to about $40/barrel nowadays.
I do have kids as it happens, and I have done my best to bring them to up love public transport.
Normally I would not expect bankruptcy to worry Swampy.
However this particular group seem to be more filled with junior members of the aristocary & public school layabouts than even the normal lot of eco-fascists. This may be related to why they chose Stansted, to interfere with the holidays of the common people. However some of them may actually have substantial assets they can't hide.
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