Friday 11 June 2010

I think that this one definitely counts.

From The Mail & Guardian:

Former president Nelson Mandela's great granddaughter was killed in a car crash while returning from the Soccer World Cup kick-off concert in Soweto on Friday morning, the Nelson Mandela Foundation said.

Gauteng police spokesperson Colonel Noxolo Kweza said that 13-year-old Zenani Mandela, the grandchild of Zindzi Mandela, was travelling with Winnie Madikizela-Mandela when their car overturned on the M1 near the Selby off-ramp outside the Johannesburg city centre. Kweza could not confirm if Winnie Mandela was injured, but said she had been taken to hospital.

The driver was arrested and police were investigating a case of culpable homicide...

Chuckles, who submitted it in response to this post, added: "Going to be a lot of judgement calls in this."

I disagree:
Violent death? Tick (the fact that the driver was arrested for culpable homicide takes this safely out of the "purely accidental death" category).
Linked to football World Cup? Tick
In South Africa? Tick

9 comments:

Chuckles said...

M,

I must stop writing in telegrams. I meant it is going to be difficult in the wider context of all possible submissions, not this one specifically.

e.g. in this case, it is linked to a pre world cup concert, not specifically to the game of footie, or a specific match, but yes, I think it qualifies.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Ch, I get you. But arguing about whether something counts or not is half the fun.

Umbongo said...

It appears from this table on the DFID website that we give about £80 million annually to S Africa (seems low to me but let's, for the sake of argument, accept the figure).

MW it would make be a much more interesting argument between you and Chuckles if, for each of the 11-100 incidents predicted (and agreed as connected to the World Cup), S Africa lost £1 million of UK taxpayers' cash. Accordingly, despite the regrettable misery caused by these deaths, at least the UK taxpayer would come out ahead. Complete mayhem in the Republic would result in S Africa sending us aid.

Mark Wadsworth said...

U, I just cannot wait until you are Minister for Overseas Aid.

The people at Indy and Graun will be having heart attacks :-)

Umbongo said...

If only . .

I note that the ministerial team at the DFID comprise CINOs without exception. My brand of conservatism wouldn't fit I'm afraid.

BTW I notice that the senior civil servant at DFID is one Nemat (“Minouche”) Shafik. As this article tells us, she is "the daughter of an Egyptian mother and a British-born father". In the conspicuous absence in any of the online biographies I have googled, I think it's fairly safe to assume that Ms Shafik was neither born nor raised here.

Within the wealth destroying world where Ms Shafik has laboured all her life, it's also fairly safe to assume that the interests of DFID's clientele take precedence over those of the poor saps who provide the dosh. However, the interests of both come well behind the interests of the paper shufflers and politicians who preen themselves on their generosity with other people's money.

Mark Wadsworth said...

U, you're the expert and already talk the talk, so two questions:

1) What does CINO mean in this context?

2. What does "British born" mean? Not "British" I assume?

Umbongo said...

MW - sorry for delayed response - I've been recovering from an overdose of tinnitus brought on by excessive vuvuzela use (not mine but from the TV):

"CINO" - Conservative In Name Only

"British born" could mean anything: he might have been born in the UK or, given when I assume he was born, in a part of the then Empire (or even on a British ship). As you imply, the conspicuous absence of an unequivocal description of him as "British" can be taken as his not being a British national. Rather like the, almost, cast iron certainty that when the BBC's PONA ("persons of no appearance") template (or the unqualified descriptor "Briton") is applied following a terrorist or criminal incident, the perp will be black or Moslem.

Chuckles said...

The 'British born' is neither mysterious nor a slur, it is merely an aside amplifying Ms. Shafiks circumstances.

Ms. Shafik has an Egyptian mother and grew up in Egypt, which somewhat implies that she was born there?
As such, she would have no claim to be a British Citizen/Subject, or right of abode, unless her father was 'British born' in the UK, and was subsequently living in Egypt.

M, On the world cup wipeout list and sweepstakes, the people of SA are in the main very friendly and welcoming towards visitors, so I'd expect the attrition to come from stupidity, misadventure, car accidents, robbery gone wrong, and things like this -

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article502299.ece/Pilot-saves-the-day-at-Lanseria

although the herds of rampaging wildebeest storming and pillaging across the savannah plains cannot be ruled out entirely...

Mark Wadsworth said...

U, ta for update.

Ch, good link, but those people were lucky this time and so don't count. A cows-on-runway story would have been good though.