One common objection to replacing the entire Welfare State with a flat-rate Citizen's Income/Citizen's Pension system (i.e. every legally resident British citizen gets the sum of £x in cash every week, depending on age/disability, which would be non-contributory, non-taxable and non-means tested) is that the amount would have to be very high to be enough to cover housing costs, which would make it too expensive, a gripe shared, interestingly enough, by right-wingers and left-wingers, rather than my suggested starting figure of £70 per week for adults (£35 for kids, £140 for pensioners) which would cost a lot less than the current Welfare State.
That's missing the point. Housing and Council Tax benefit (total nominal outlay about £18 billion a year) can be neatly divided into two chunks;
Chunk 1) Two-thirds of that goes to social tenants, so it counts as an expense to the DWP, but counts as income for local authorities. So that's not really an expense at all. Rather than the over-complicated system whereby local councils have two departments to chase social tenants for rent and council tax and another two departments sort out Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit, which are savagely means-tested (withdrawn at a total of 85% of your post-tax income, which includes Tax Credits, natch), even in the absence of a CI-style scheme, it would be much better to scrap rent/council tax for social tenants and give them a PAYE code with a higher rate of tax. I calculate that a rate of about twenty per cent would be revenue-neutral.
We can then do a more honest appraisal of the true cost of social housing, as we can easily identify the extra PAYE collected by HMRC and councils/Housing Associations can identify their running costs. It appears that social housing runs at roughly break-even, or possibly a small surplus. With a reduction in means-testing from 85% to 20%, more social tenants are likely to work and hence the surplus would increase.
Chunk 2) One-third is paid to private landlords. This is anathema to me, of course, as it is a subsidy to private landlords. It would be far better for the state to scrap it forthwith and take that £6 billion a year, gear up a bit and use the money to build more housing for the 1.6 million families on council house waiting lists. Private rents would fall, of course so after a year or two, there'd be hardly anybody on the waiting lists and we'd have an extra million units of social housing. The average revenues would be more than enough to cover interest and running costs, so we've saved the taxpayer £6 billion a year, reduced rents for private tenants and kept a bit of a lid on house prices (which would go down if rents went down).
Quite what happens from here on in is a matter of conjecture of course - my view being that the private land market is so savagely rigged in favour of incumbents, for whom strict planning restrictions are a one-way bet (and an easy way for politicians to win votes), the state ought to just keep going. If the economy is growing at three per cent a year, why shouldn't the number of homes be increasing at three per cent a year (i.e. three quarters of a million homes)?
As long as private rents are significantly above twenty per cent of local incomes, there'll be demand for social housing, so we can just keep building it - a volume of 250,000 new units a year would be quite enough to give every young couple household the opportunity to move into a new home, for example*. And if more people are in state-owned housing, their average incomes would increase, so the tax rate could fall to maybe as low as ten per cent, which would in turn keep private rents and hence house prices down.
There, I've said it.
* Sure, the state is not particularly good at running housing - they're rubbish at evicting nuisance tenants, for example, but there's nothing to stop them sub-contracting that to private or mutual organisations with a profit motive; and sure, there will be more and less desirable housing, which can be allocated by charging a premium for the nicer homes, which again will help reduce the marginal tax rate and so on. That's all details, and different areas will try different things until we work out in practice what's best.
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Not sure if I understand your point here. Also
"If the economy is growing at three per cent a year, why shouldn't the number of homes be increasing at three per cent a year"
Why should it be, too?
We dont need any more homes. There are plenty to go around already:
http://www.emptyhomes.com/usefulinformation/stats/statistics.html
I understand the logic, but I am entirely against increased state owned and run 'social housing'. I would be a lot happier if the private sector supplied the housing as a service to the LA's.
Surely if this goes along with proper tax reform on housing the private landlors would not obtain windfall profits?
Plus the LA's have a habit of building ghettos and concentrating social tenants in one area. This is Wrong.
Personally, I'd scrap all social housing. I bet if there wasn't any, we'd have a much smaller welfare state.
"which would in turn keep private rents and hence house prices down."
I'd be interested to know the reasoning behind this comment. It's my impression that house prices are governed by speculation - if people think they will always be able to sell at a profit, they go rocketing up, if not they are pretty well static. Lack of rented accommodation may have sparked off the 80's house price inflation, but it's difficult to see how it caused the last one.
Bayard. Housing price rises are driven by a number of factors. Tax policy. Planning policy. Genreal scarcity. School place rationing etc etc. And most recently monetary policy failure. A major factor in controlling mad housing asset bubbles is to control the money supply.
I think MW has a whole raft of accompanying and necessary reforms to get house prices - well land prices really - under control.
rather than my suggested starting figure of £70 per week for adults (£35 for kids, £140 for pensioners) which would cost a lot less than the current Welfare State.
Way too much. I think many haven't got the principle right. It's not meant to be a complete income but a fall back position, should the job speculation not go too well. It's a safety net only, to cover fixed living costs.
Otherwise, there's no incentive to work, as is the case today.
RS, probably yes. But the minute I suggest policies that encourage people to "right size" I get screamed at.
L, yes, hence my closing comment that the right to do the actual planning and day-to-day running should be auctioned off to local organisations who can only recoup the price they bid by doing their job properly. Whether those organisations are local builders, local letting agents, tenants' associations or evil property speculators is neither here nor there.
OTC, as badly run as it is, social housing is one of the few parts of the 'welfare state' that shows a modest return for the taxpayer. If it were better run (see above) it would show a much better return for the taxpayer.
B, the key to house price bubbles is not just easy credit (which Lola mentions) but also a lack of new supply. If you knew that there'd always be enough supply to meet new demand at a modest cost, there'd be no bubbles (in a truly free market, you don't get bubbles except in the very short term - weeks or months).
Compare this with flat screen TVs - there are no restrictions on supply so they have come down in price over the years. Would it have been right for the government to protect the interests of those who bought a flat screen ten years ago for £2,000 by restricting new supply very sharply so that they still cost £2,000 today?
JH, I chose £70 because it's halfway between JSA rate and IB rate. I can see arguments for anything between £nil per week and £120 per week, and the principle interests me more than the precise figure.
IMHO £70 a week (excl. housing costs) only covers a bare existence minimum anyway.
"B, the key to house price bubbles is not just easy credit (which Lola mentions) but also a lack of new supply."
I'm not sure I agree with this: OK price tends to rise in line with demand, but the opposite also appears to be true, demand tends to rise in line with price. When prices aren't rising, demand falls off. Currently we have housing building sites standing idle throughout the country, which suggests that the problem is not with supply, it's with demand.
Anyway, I wouldn't want to live on £70 a week if I could help it. I wonder if JH has ever tried to or even thought what it would be like trying to. It's only £3640 a year FFS, hardly the life of Reilly. I wonder also how many "dolies" would like to work but simply can't afford to at unskilled wages.
Why not just take everybodies money - buy what they need - give it to them - keep the rest for monuments.
Bet you never thought of that.
B, the psychology of bubbles is a different topic, I'm talking about what you need to get them going.
We didn't have any house price bubble at all in the 1950s and 1960s because there was plenty of new supply and house values were taxed (Schedule A and Domestic Rates).
Anon, it's "everybody's".
MW "But the minute I suggest policies that encourage people to "right size" I get screamed at."
Be Bold. Screaming cannot hurt you. Sticks, stones, debt and poverty can and does.
Dole is £64 apparently.
It's really good that you're proposing this as no party I know is doing so. I discussed this with LPUK and they didn't want to know.
"use the money to build more housing for the 1.6 million families on council house waiting lists."
Or alternatively reduce the demand for social housing by slowing immigration.
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