tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post9130217660737385406..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: Student fee and loan wibble.Mark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-50197643743788570942017-07-20T07:58:04.665+01:002017-07-20T07:58:04.665+01:00Sobers, your point would be valid if there was any...Sobers, your point would be valid if there was any connection between government income and government spending, but there isn't. Both are governed by political constraints, that's why we run a deficit.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390261222706764789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-41642695738066102342017-07-19T17:18:03.612+01:002017-07-19T17:18:03.612+01:00SL, good plan!
G, exactly.SL, good plan!<br /><br />G, exactly.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-65331816005774075782017-07-19T16:55:35.993+01:002017-07-19T16:55:35.993+01:00S and B, that's not off topic and agreed, it&#...S and B, that's not off topic and agreed, it's a stupid arms race. Even ten years ago somebody told me that his kids had done maths and got good degrees etc but if they wanted to get a better job they had to have an MSc at least.<br /><br />To go on the safe side I saved up and did a BA (Hons) full time, then after I'd done ACCA and ATII, I tacked on an LLB part time in the evenings and occasional afternooon off :-)Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-84291324312812706842017-07-19T16:34:39.076+01:002017-07-19T16:34:39.076+01:00S, when I was at uni back in the early 80's, a...S, when I was at uni back in the early 80's, a lecturer told me that the university was run for the benefit of the Senior Common Room, i.e. the teaching staff and the university management. A slight acquaintance with the history of Oxford University leads me to think that it was ever thus. "This would be a great job if it wasn't for all those f*cking students" as one of the teaching staff was reputed to have said.<br /><br />Agreed about degree inflation: that was an inevitable result of doubling the number of students entering tertiary education. If you have x vacancies, a lazy HR department and more than x number of applicants with a degree, then the job, de facto requires a degree, whether it is relevant or not.<br /><br />The elephant in the room, of course is the fact that an awful lot of the post Tony Blair's bright idea degrees are completely useless, but no-one wants to publicly admit that thousands of young people have been ripped off to the tune of £20,000 or so.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390261222706764789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-68789412781839441622017-07-19T13:07:41.864+01:002017-07-19T13:07:41.864+01:00Chaps
Slightly off topic (but only slightly)... I...Chaps<br /><br />Slightly off topic (but only slightly)... I have a daughter at Uni right now. A f***ing farce. <br /><br />As far as I can tell its all a bloody racket run for the benefit of the Unis and their superannuated employees - lecturers are shite in general, pastoral care/non-academic support is non-existent, IT and 'services' are a shambles. And this is a Russell Group uni not some upstart provincial FE college pretending to be something it isn't.<br /><br />Plus it seems to me that the 'inflation', whereby some jobs that never needed a degree in the past now do, is mainly a public sector phenomenon (nursing being a good example).<br /><br />Not sure if the way its funded has anything to do with any of this but just my 2p worth as a frustrated and angry parent.Shineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281261419328886986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-82596236364699578892017-07-19T12:41:26.481+01:002017-07-19T12:41:26.481+01:00The universities have expanded massively. King'...The universities have expanded massively. King's London seems to own most of the Aldwych and South Bank. Ucl owns everything around Kings Cross and Euston. If you reduce the number of students that's a lot of property freed upGraemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007306140530173428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-63090849072578030302017-07-19T11:31:45.445+01:002017-07-19T11:31:45.445+01:00My plan:
1) Say the loans will not be cancelled
2...My plan:<br /><br />1) Say the loans will not be cancelled<br />2) Sell the loans<br />3) Aggressively hike the income threshold at which repayments start by £5k a year until it is at £75k or so.Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-44703610237941755042017-07-19T11:27:33.864+01:002017-07-19T11:27:33.864+01:00S, we shall have to agree to disagree.
M, exactly...S, we shall have to agree to disagree.<br /><br />M, exactly.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-8166460911033813262017-07-19T10:51:54.162+01:002017-07-19T10:51:54.162+01:00Simple solution to student loans. Abolish them in ...Simple solution to student loans. Abolish them in exchange for eligibility for state pension being pushed out by 3 years. Only problem is that the state pension is not funded so this will have no impact on public accounts. We pretend that the £3.8tn deficit doesn't exist. No Philip Green to pressure into making good on that I'm afraid...mombershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650866436764567516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-5224835254692270352017-07-18T23:53:49.675+01:002017-07-18T23:53:49.675+01:00Just because someone is not a net tax payer does n...Just because someone is not a net tax payer does not mean they are not subsidising someone else's education though. As long as they pay some taxes(and everyone pays VAT, duties etc even if not income tax or NI), even if those are more than compensated for by benefits received, they could be in an even better position if the taxes they do pay were lower. So greater spending by the State to provide a free tertiary education system would indeed fall on all taxpayers, regardless of whether they were net tax payers or not.Sobershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407417389022146963noreply@blogger.com