tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post2649384699301178969..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: Welfare for the Wealthy (3)Mark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-77920011250270816522014-10-22T19:46:49.663+01:002014-10-22T19:46:49.663+01:00LF, why did you think I was referring to people on...LF, why did you think I was referring to people on £25K p.a? I agree, those are not "the poor"Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-19675439055419510082014-10-22T09:28:53.282+01:002014-10-22T09:28:53.282+01:00@"Mainly, however, it shows up the Tories'...@"Mainly, however, it shows up the Tories' harrying of the poor for the cynical vote-chasing exercise it really is"<br />People who were getting over £25k p.a. in benefits were not poor.<br />I was taking home that from my job in 2010 (after travel costs) and I didn't think that I was poor.L fairfaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12274756119129254373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-47496163602187237482014-10-21T23:38:00.076+01:002014-10-21T23:38:00.076+01:00"The socialist mind can't see this. It se...<i>"The socialist mind can't see this. It sees only that someone has money - oh quick, must steal it for ourselves"</i><br /><br />Comments like this underpin why LVT isn't more popular. I mean if you can't understand the motivations of your adversaries how can you convince them why your ideas are better...JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15509020747779905069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-54885350452387731502014-10-21T20:17:36.065+01:002014-10-21T20:17:36.065+01:00JH, sure some of the bungs are revenue-positive, i...JH, sure some of the bungs are revenue-positive, i.e. they attract businesses that, ultimately, end up paying more in tax than they received in the bung, but many are not. <br /><br />Also, I agree with you about the socialists. The Grauniad article was full of mentions of companies recieving more in bungs that the government got back in corporation tax, as if CT was the only tax companies paid. <br /><br />As Lola points out, it doesn't matter who is currently crewing the Ship of Fools, we still get the worst of both worlds, public money being given to business <b>and</b> socialist meddling in businees affairs.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-9834938998919172202014-10-21T20:08:24.619+01:002014-10-21T20:08:24.619+01:00By Gum that was quick. I only posted it a minute ...By Gum that was quick. I only posted it a minute ago and already I have four comments....Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-27369754134512961662014-10-21T18:20:45.195+01:002014-10-21T18:20:45.195+01:00My guess is that the total package incl. bank and ...My guess is that the total package incl. bank and landowner subsidies is twice as much as the amount stated. <br /><br />To some extent this is churn, i.e. business activity is simultaneously taxed and subsidised, but mainly it is pure and utter theft, or "waste" as they call it in the trade.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-40540243913355859432014-10-21T11:50:20.494+01:002014-10-21T11:50:20.494+01:00..sorry, just to add, what I told him was that wha.....sorry, just to add, what I told him was that what small business wanted was for him and his ilk to go right away and leave us well alone - only not quite as politely... Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586735342675041312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-27357872744262211012014-10-21T11:49:04.121+01:002014-10-21T11:49:04.121+01:00Point of information. I was invited to a round ta...Point of information. I was invited to a round table meeting with the local Chamber of Commerce just shortly after the 2010 election. The speaker made a great play as to how the new government was now going to hand out lots of dosh to areas it deemed to need such largesse. I got quite cross and told that it was just this this which in part had got us into this mess. I wasn't popular. Really, what can you do....? Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586735342675041312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-55279131438230668602014-10-21T11:23:13.082+01:002014-10-21T11:23:13.082+01:00For business to remain, there must be what they wo...For business to remain, there must be what they would see as advantages. <br /><br />The socialist mind can't see this. It sees only that someone has money - oh quick, must steal it for ourselves.<br /><br />Investment is something attracted, not ordered by the politburo. Essentially, what the govt is saying is - look, our taxes and regulations are low enough, few enough, we want your investment, as long as it produces jobs.<br /><br />This is where growth comes from, not from some govt demand that it happens.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.com