tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post1124639865009500745..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: It is easy to rubbish something if you wilfully misunderstand itMark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-37442561336478581022016-06-05T17:40:20.588+01:002016-06-05T17:40:20.588+01:00The, agreed, but those are separate topics to CBI....The, agreed, but those are separate topics to CBI.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-52032461847755785262016-06-05T12:31:44.276+01:002016-06-05T12:31:44.276+01:00Hence we get proposals of a CI/BI that are somethi...<i> Hence we get proposals of a CI/BI that are something else entirely ie they include HB, Disability Benefit and are means tested (face-palm).</i><br /><br />To be fair the seriously disabled require a bit extra and housing benefit is a minefield.testhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10558968476513810940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-33705529726695704132016-06-02T14:07:30.511+01:002016-06-02T14:07:30.511+01:00To be fair, he is attacking one specific proposal ...<i>To be fair, he is attacking one specific proposal which recommends means testing the basic income, in which case it is not a basic income, full stop."</i><br /><br />That would be the lunatic adoptive brother of CI sometimes called "Guaranteed Minimum Income", which should be kept away from the family as far as possible :)<br /><br />The thing about CI is that although there's definetly a upper limit to it, but interestingly, except for transaction costs being unproportionally high, there is no lower limit. So even at a very low level of 20-30 pounds a week, it has an effect for lots of people. Ok, so you can't abolish other benefits at a very low level, that wouldn't be acceptable. But if you start by doing away with some tax/welfare roundabouts, and adding it into a CI, you'll allready have positive results for swathes of people. Less and less people will loose out from taking low paid work, and they will have the benefit of regular liquidity. Ofcourse it'll mostly go to rent without LVT, but still.Kjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13530243002915410700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-65620117889128137182016-06-02T11:00:32.023+01:002016-06-02T11:00:32.023+01:00The debate regarding the CI is similar to that for...The debate regarding the CI is similar to that for the LVT.<br /><br />For a start there are lots of proponents who have jump on the bandwagon (usually for promoting Socialist policies) and don't know what they are talking about. Hence we get proposals of a CI/BI that are something else entirely ie they include HB, Disability Benefit and are means tested (face-palm).<br /><br />This confusion allows opponents to make valid arguments about something that isn't actually an LVT or CI.<br /><br />There are probably only a handful of people in the UK qualified to talk about LVT or a CI. Yet for some reason the media doesn't bother to fact check with them first.<br /><br />Frustrating.<br /><br /> benjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11544297406005346095noreply@blogger.com