tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post7450622578502066684..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: Nobody move… or the French tourism industry gets it.Mark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-60052139793031358522017-03-29T15:22:23.215+01:002017-03-29T15:22:23.215+01:00"I would rather get back to the post-war Brit... "I would rather get back to the post-war Brit mixed economy where housing ,water companies railways ,anything that is basically a natural monopoly, is nationalised or otherwise in public ownership"<br /><br />Yes to public ownership of natural monopolies, i.e the land and all that is in or on it, railway tracks, pipes, wires etc. but no to nationalisation. Public ownership should mean run by the state, not run by what are essentially private companies owned by the state. As I've said before, the joint-stock company model doesn't even work very well in the private sector, where there is a profit motive to keep things vaguely efficient.<br /><br />BTW has anyone else received a spam text from a Bremainiac today?Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390261222706764789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-55315732841023544712017-03-29T10:50:53.214+01:002017-03-29T10:50:53.214+01:00@MW
VAT is becoming a bit of a bête noire.
Rather...@MW<br />VAT is becoming a bit of a bête noire.<br /> Rather than the Qatari government (see above) directing investment into Brit rental opportunities such as the Olympic Village and the nationalised French railway taking rents off chunks of our system, I would rather get back to the post-war Brit mixed economy where housing ,water companies railways ,anything that is basically a natural monopoly, is nationalised or otherwise in public ownership. There I said it. Land nationalisation is always a viable alternative to LVT (it was for the great Gesell) and we are now,virtually, in a state of emergency. <br />The private school and trustafarian riff raff who have the private incomes and bases in London to meddle in national politics have ignored the LVT that might save the system they parasitically feed off and have ruined British industry with the ultimate wankers succeeding with the ultimate wank : Brexit (which does fuck all to stop the Qataris etc. feeding off the land values we create).<br />A lot of these rents may go back to the great rentier states like Saudi Arabia who appear to use it to subsidise the genocide which has set off the refugee flights into Europe which have caused panic and in the UK economic suicide under our witless government which has been stripped of economic powers. <br /> DBC Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891849727783879145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-64737880589474862162017-03-29T00:41:42.402+01:002017-03-29T00:41:42.402+01:00“disruption of supply chains” that could even incl...“disruption of supply chains” that could even include “the suspension of nuclear material”.<br />That would be our imports of spent fuel rods would it? I'm sure Sellafield will survive.FrankChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07349761659165064987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-29832005870349758452017-03-28T19:29:05.410+01:002017-03-28T19:29:05.410+01:00Sh, also true. VAT is such an awful tax, I'd r...Sh, also true. VAT is such an awful tax, I'd rather have higher income/corp tax rates like in the USA.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-29913730813914553782017-03-28T18:31:50.667+01:002017-03-28T18:31:50.667+01:00@DBCR
Yes, but the also have VAT. So only half-go...@DBCR<br /><br />Yes, but the also have VAT. So only half-good.Shineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281261419328886986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-19841991654129135142017-03-28T17:43:19.688+01:002017-03-28T17:43:19.688+01:00DBC, that is true.DBC, that is true.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-72738965359189397142017-03-28T17:38:34.686+01:002017-03-28T17:38:34.686+01:00@S MW
Denmark and Estonia have Lvt's .@S MW<br />Denmark and Estonia have Lvt's .DBC Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891849727783879145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-53873039085295381162017-03-28T15:16:21.021+01:002017-03-28T15:16:21.021+01:00B, agreed
DBC, see Shiney's commentB, agreed <br /><br />DBC, see Shiney's commentMark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-20187450433167025502017-03-28T14:40:14.745+01:002017-03-28T14:40:14.745+01:00@DBCR
Well, for one, it allows us to argue for th...@DBCR<br /><br />Well, for one, it allows us to argue for the scrapping of that worst of taxes, VAT, and its replacement with LVT... which is specifically forbidden under EU rules.Shineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281261419328886986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-16155675804671183112017-03-28T14:20:57.523+01:002017-03-28T14:20:57.523+01:00@MW
Please explain how Brexit brings the advent o...@MW <br />Please explain how Brexit brings the advent of LVT any closer.Would have thought that the only thing that would dissuade the Beleavers from enforcing their eccentric ambitions is a downturn or stabilisation of house prices.DBC Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891849727783879145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-52465407125339775032017-03-28T13:56:13.834+01:002017-03-28T13:56:13.834+01:00Yes, it's a leading Bremainiac lie that no dea...Yes, it's a leading Bremainiac lie that no deal/WTO terms means tariffs on everything. Yes, the EU might slap tariffs on stuff that they import from us, but isn't that just going to mean that it makes things more expensive for their citizens for no reason other than spite? Nor do we have to reciprocate. In any case, they can't do worse than about 10%, which is hardly likely to make our foreign customers leave in droves. Our exports can go and have gone up more than that through exchange rate moves, so we know exactly what will happen, which is nothing much.<br /><br />The whole thing is so French. They didn't want us in and now they have a chance to get rid of us, they are trying to be as spiteful as possible.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390261222706764789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-17148286133938818652017-03-28T13:46:37.181+01:002017-03-28T13:46:37.181+01:00PC, see update
Sh, exactly. Only I don't call...PC, see update<br /><br />Sh, exactly. Only I don't call it fallback position, that should be our main aim.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-42635661374968866802017-03-28T09:58:38.580+01:002017-03-28T09:58:38.580+01:00@pc156
"All immaterial if one wishes to just...@pc156<br /><br />"All immaterial if one wishes to just up sticks at the end of the formal discussions and go to zero tariffs regards imports from non EU, WTO terms...whatever"<br /><br />Remember the old adage... "fall back positions are the contingencies of the wise" - I think you just outlined ours.Shineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281261419328886986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-41759487157608088672017-03-28T09:09:54.450+01:002017-03-28T09:09:54.450+01:00All immaterial if one wishes to just up sticks at ...All immaterial if one wishes to just up sticks at the end of the formal discussions and go to zero tariffs regards imports from non EU, WTO terms...whatever. Yet it seems unlikely that even Davis and chums seem so keen to take this route. If they want a more amicable deal and in good time they may just have to agree some £'s divorce settlement and will probably have to continue to make significant payments in future years to secure terms with the EU. They may need to agree this and the status of existing EU workers to even get to the point of discussing a future deal with the EU on more general trade terms. It also appears that the much lower numbers of foreign workers envisaged by most brexiters is a low priority for the Tories. Plenty of job opportunities for civil servants and lawyers thoughpaulc156https://www.blogger.com/profile/12412449043451685404noreply@blogger.com