tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post6359064840788066197..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: Smart MetersMark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-58992903704449401762014-09-11T11:26:25.522+01:002014-09-11T11:26:25.522+01:00@Bayard - It will go further than Economy 7. Smart...@Bayard - It will go further than Economy 7. Smart meters will allow suppliers the capability of varying tariffs on a real time basis. Faced with a punitive rate at morning or evening peak periods you will be faced with paying up if your need is great, or waiting until the price is acceptable. Hence the push to do washing and drying during the night, and have appliances such as freezers, fridges & aircon switch off for short periods, as this won't significantly affect their performance.microdavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01352078582764696261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-908962119312367652014-09-10T21:57:18.433+01:002014-09-10T21:57:18.433+01:00Kj, I assumed that I use one oven and two rings fo...Kj, I assumed that I use one oven and two rings for forty minutes.<br /><br />For some reason, things always cook really slowly when I'm cooking them. And maybe boiling some water in the kettle.<br /><br />My £1 was a wild guess.<br /><br />I have calculated it properly and actually that works out at 35p.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-41812838632475462752014-09-10T21:36:28.849+01:002014-09-10T21:36:28.849+01:00Cooking a meal costs about £1 in electricity.
4,5...<i>Cooking a meal costs about £1 in electricity.</i><br /><br />4,5 hours in front of the stove for each meal, and you still find time to wash the dishes by hand?Kjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13530243002915410700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-1624810163267923212014-09-10T19:30:31.426+01:002014-09-10T19:30:31.426+01:00I have Economy 7 already and it's the cinderel...I have Economy 7 already and it's the cinderella of power supply. Each supplier has only one Economy 7 tariff, there are none of the special offers that ordinary users are offered, it's like it or lump it.<br /><br />This is strange behaviour by the power companies if they want people to use more off-peak electricity.Rich Teehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14037296506942507747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-16373121137498340822014-09-10T19:01:51.099+01:002014-09-10T19:01:51.099+01:00"The only way most people would make signific..."The only way most people would make significant savings is by setting power hungry appliances to run during the night, when prices will be lower."<br /><br />Does that mean that everyone will have "Economy 7", or will you have to pay more during the day if you want to pay less during the night?Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-91928686580973620002014-09-10T18:17:40.834+01:002014-09-10T18:17:40.834+01:00It's bullshit bingo.
We care about the enviro...It's bullshit bingo.<br /><br />We care about the environment in an abstract sense, and we care about our monthly electricity bill,s but decision making is on a gadget by gadget level.<br /><br />There's a handy table <a href="http://www.greatbowden.org/documents/TypicalEnergyUsageforHouseholdAppliances.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Cooking a meal costs about £1 in electricity.<br /><br />Using the dishwasher is about 10p (plus 20p for the tablet?).<br /> <br />One load of laundry is 11p for washing machine + 33p for tumble dryer if it looks like rain (plus probably 30p or so for powder and softener).<br /> <br />etc etc.<br /><br />All in all, not really enough to put you off using them.<br /><br />PS, I prefer washing the dishes by hand, that's a personal preference. Get it done and dusted and out of the way.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-15926026730777888452014-09-10T17:40:27.806+01:002014-09-10T17:40:27.806+01:00If the conspiracy theorists are to believed, it is...If the conspiracy theorists are to believed, it is part of a long term plan to give the government control over your power consumption. This will be done for your own good to "combat climate change".<br /><br />Microdave's comment above does seem to reinforce this POV.Rich Teehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14037296506942507747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-18263467542924105042014-09-10T11:59:10.646+01:002014-09-10T11:59:10.646+01:00The only way most people would make significant sa...The only way most people would make significant savings is by setting power hungry appliances to run during the night, when prices will be lower. Thanks to reduced spare capacity in the grid, variable tariffs are an integral part of the government push for smart meters. <br /><br />As part of this plan "Smart" appliances are also in the works - these will communicate with the meter and can be programmed to only run when the unit price is below a certain figure, for example. I notice that Bosch are currently advertising a dishwasher which gives you the choice of a quick wash using more power, or a slower one using less. This is similar form of "customer choice", or getting people used to the idea that energy is no longer to be expected as permanently available. Other devices (fridges & freezers, for example) could be remotely ordered to shut off for short periods during peak demand, and then re-start when the supply was less critical. THAT'S the real reason for imposing smart meters on us. <br /><br />Welcome to the third world...microdavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01352078582764696261noreply@blogger.com