tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post1507959885475813177..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: Faux Libertarianism in a nut shellMark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-91331742368578522472018-03-18T17:54:57.016+00:002018-03-18T17:54:57.016+00:00L, true. FLs accept the world the way it is, but d...L, true. FLs accept the world the way it is, but do not understand why it is as it is. AL's imagine some form of society that cannot exist. Nonetheless, AL is just an extreme form of the fantasy (explanation of the) world which the FLs think they inhabit.<br /><br />JK, look at the map, the borders are that way, and they are that way for a reason. Whether that's Andorra or Nepal. No Slartibartfast involved.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-44763554447028061732018-03-18T17:36:55.557+00:002018-03-18T17:36:55.557+00:00ask why Chile or Norway look like they do
Blame S...<i>ask why Chile or Norway look like they do</i><br /><br />Blame Slartibartfast.jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-39013922658478409062018-03-18T17:33:22.625+00:002018-03-18T17:33:22.625+00:00Faux libs are not the same as anarcho-libs. The l...Faux libs are not the same as anarcho-libs. The latter seem to base their land ownership thingy on 'homesteading'. They then add 'property rights'. Property in the widest sense. And that sorts out the rest of it.<br /><br />But you are correct, There are lots of fake-libertarians out there.Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586735342675041312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-63049984726835959382018-03-18T17:19:33.948+00:002018-03-18T17:19:33.948+00:00D, well no, literacy is not that important, see JK...D, well no, literacy is not that important, see JK's example of "the OOdaFookaree tribe [which] considered all the land between the river and the big oak tree as THEIRS". Don't judge historic literacy by modern standards, verbal or traditional records are still records.<br /><br />JK, British fishermen didn't lose the Cod War, British politicians decided it wouldn't look good to actually win it and so threw in the towel.<br /><br />Systems of measurement only became important once there were slightly more people demanding land than there was valuable land within that society's borders. Until then, trees and rivers and so on worked just fine. Provided the whole tribe was prepared to fight against other tribes who crossed the river or passed the particular tree (test 4).<br /><br />Hence and why so many national borders are marked by impassable and valueless land, such as mountain ranges. Easy to identify, not worth fighting over and easy to defend. Just look at a map and ask why Chile or Norway look like they do, or why most really small countries are in mountainous regions.<br /><br />BJ, that is of course what I am leading up to, but let's start with basics.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-67532202635401186042018-03-18T17:02:52.113+00:002018-03-18T17:02:52.113+00:00Perhaps we need to do away with the who notion of ...Perhaps we need to do away with the who notion of land as property, therefore ownership?<br /><br />Might help clarify what the LVT actually is, and why it would be a prerequisite even in an anarchy if it wanted to be peaceful and prosperous. benjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11544297406005346095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-29425377025815694732018-03-18T14:31:49.674+00:002018-03-18T14:31:49.674+00:00It also helps (although not strictly necessary) if...It also helps (although not strictly necessary) if that society has universal, standard forms of measurement; accurate forms of area measurement. Saying something is '40 X 20 ells' is only good if everyone knows exactly how long an ell is. <br /><br />And as far as I can recall ALL ancient societies (usually Kingdoms or theocracies) made a BIG crime or sin out of moving boundary stones. Moving your neighbours boundary stone was often the worse kind of theft, quite literally taking the food out of his family's mouth. Even those 'primitive' tribes who have/had collective land ownership, still marked out or 'bounded' that area of their collective ownership ie the OOdaFookaree tribe considered all the land between the river and the big oak tree as THEIRS, and all the winkywanky birds therein. <br /><br />One only has to listen to the whinging of British fisherfolk, who seem to have forgotten how they got their arses kicked in the 'Cod War', to hear the same 'ugg' sentiments even today. jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-67506460449858565552018-03-18T13:00:00.138+00:002018-03-18T13:00:00.138+00:00You might add that it needs reliable and accessibl...You might add that it needs reliable and accessible archives and records maintained by literate people.Demetriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198549581667363991noreply@blogger.com