tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post1029513367602172952..comments2024-03-05T10:52:24.691+00:00Comments on Mark Wadsworth: Killer Arguments Against LVT, Not (385)Mark Wadsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-50520160604581474212016-02-27T08:40:35.845+00:002016-02-27T08:40:35.845+00:00B, each country has its special myths and legal fi...B, each country has its special myths and legal fictions to explain land ownership.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-45789966234832610212016-02-26T22:48:54.528+00:002016-02-26T22:48:54.528+00:00"What does "nationalising land" mea..."What does "nationalising land" mean anyway? LVT is a sophisticated way of nationalising and redistributing land RENTS."<br /><br />Well, technically, all the land already belongs to the state, all that "landowners" actually own is an entitlement to occupy that land for no rent. That's presumably why the proof of "ownership" is called a title.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-81802999051528308292016-02-26T21:38:21.593+00:002016-02-26T21:38:21.593+00:00It depends on what you mean by they should "d...It depends on what you mean by they should "dispose of their assets first." If you mean the government taking them then yes. If not they just sell them onto some rich people.Randomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-85496640941634653942016-02-26T18:56:52.950+00:002016-02-26T18:56:52.950+00:00M, yes, that irks as well. You've got more tha...M, yes, that irks as well. You've got more than £16k cash savings? Then fuck off. You've got a £1.6 million home? No problem.<br /><br />R, nope, it will reduce inequality - the best measure of inequality is net disposable income after tax and housing costs.<br /><br />What does "nationalising land" mean anyway? LVT is a sophisticated way of nationalising and redistributing land RENTS. (We can argue about what sort of welfare system we want to have as a separate issue)Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-43263856625308552662016-02-26T11:15:28.143+00:002016-02-26T11:15:28.143+00:00"somebody wants to qualify as poor and get pu..."somebody wants to qualify as poor and get public assistance, they should dispose of their assets first, like those who have non-land assets are currently forced to do."<br /><br />Er why? Won't that just segregate the poor and non-poor further?<br /><br />Best to just nationalise the land, and give 'poor' people jobs.Randomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-14130571326061090942016-02-26T10:03:08.471+00:002016-02-26T10:03:08.471+00:00"The land-owning poor" - what a ridiculo..."The land-owning poor" - what a ridiculous statement concept! If somebody wants to qualify as poor and get public assistance, they should dispose of their assets first, like those who have non-land assets are currently forced to do.mombershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650866436764567516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-26323640084314044312016-02-25T20:12:24.584+00:002016-02-25T20:12:24.584+00:00B, that is one of Henry Law;'s arguments that ...B, that is one of Henry Law;'s arguments that he makes over and over again.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-26884560738489633152016-02-25T20:10:04.915+00:002016-02-25T20:10:04.915+00:00"R, yes, it's a traditional KL< LVT wo..."R, yes, it's a traditional KL< LVT would benefit the rich and hurt the poor."<br /><br />It's bloody obvious that this isn't the case or we would have LVT now and there'd be groups of people campaigning to get rid of it.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-21018922476273676312016-02-25T18:18:42.100+00:002016-02-25T18:18:42.100+00:00R, yes, it's a traditional KL< LVT would be...R, yes, it's a traditional KL< <a href="http://kaalvtn.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/g-lvt-would-benefit-rich-and-hurt-poor.html" rel="nofollow">LVT would benefit the rich and hurt the poor</a>.<br /><br />Fact is, most 'poor' people would benefit overall from a shift to LVT. Why are the interests of the land-owning poor more important than those of the renting or over-mortgaged poor?Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-8242169453741280122016-02-25T16:38:02.764+00:002016-02-25T16:38:02.764+00:00BTW I hear this sort of argument among the left (o...BTW I hear this sort of argument among the left (one example):<br /><br />"Then with a collapsed housing market, properties could be bought up cheaply and either remodeled and sold to new gentry, or just milked as a cash cow by renting to the newly property-less. It is an ill wind that blows no body good."Randomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141932539860553199.post-24560198624104095722016-02-25T16:22:25.277+00:002016-02-25T16:22:25.277+00:00I call this the Batman argument. It doesn't wo...I call this the Batman argument. It doesn't work in reality.Randomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.com